ForumsWEPRIs the bottle half empty or half full?

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TheAngelOfWar
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It's clearly half empty.

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HahiHa
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This is an obvious false dichotomy, there is no wrong answer. However, to play the game I'd say it is half full, because the standard condition of a glas is empty, therefore you have to fill it in order to make it half full.

pangtongshu
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Neither because air
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Ishtaron
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However, to play the game I'd say it is half full, because the standard condition of a glas is empty, therefore you have to fill it in order to make it half full.

I could say the opposite. A glass is a container, the purpose of its existence is to be filled. Anytime it's not completely filled it isn't accomplishing that purpose and thus the emptiness stands out.

Doombreed
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Given the above posts, I'd just sum my view on this sentence: It depends on whether the bottle is being filled or drained.

FishPreferred
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No. There is no such thing as "half full" or "half empty", just as there is no such thing as a "half on" light switch or a "half tails" coin flip. The state of the container is "half capacity".

DeaconTbone
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It is clearly both.

never_1337
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i say both

09philj
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If you have been filling it, it's half full. If you have been emptying it, it's half empty.

HahiHa
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The bottle is always full of something. Half liquid means the rest is air or some other gas. Or solid. Or anything, really.

Nice thinking, but what if you take a bottle with a vacuum and inject half of the bottle's capacity of a certain liquid?

If you have been filling it, it's half full. If you have been emptying it, it's half empty.

What if you don't have that information?
partydevil
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the bottom half is full the top half is empty. =)

FishPreferred
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Then the bottle is full of liquid. It would disperse evenly, though it would be spread a bit thinner.
Liquid doesn't disperse evenly in a vacuum. Only gases do that.

But wouldn't that work the other way around? "The bottom is half empty and the top is half full."
Um...what?
FishPreferred
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He said that the bottom half is full and the top half is empty.

This also begs the question of what constitutes full capacity. ~10^12kg of matter can occupy 1mL with room to spare, so a thinly-spread vapour isn't going to be filling much.

Riptizoid101
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lol you guise are idiots I already drank it so it's fully empty

Greg7077
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It depends, if you we're filling it it's half full, but if you we're drinking it it's half empty.

HahiHa
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Heat the liquid until it reaches boiling point.

Why? If you have a bottle with half capacity filled by a liquid and the rest a vacuum, that already defeats your point.

It's full of whatever is inside it if it is evenly distributed.

Actually I'm more of a mind with FishPreferred, if the gas filling the bottle is only at half its habitual pressure, the bottle can be considered at half capacity; otherwise you would have to assume that the bottle can be equally full when containing different amount of matter, which is counter-intuitive. Of course that also means that unlike for solids and liquids, a bottle can be filled by more than its capacity if you pressurize the gas, which is not entirely intuitive either.
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