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thoadthetoad
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This is a completely serious club, people who make a decent enough plan will be able to comment and review other plans. Here is some zombie info.

run/walk: they walk

scream/groan: they groan

day/night: All da time babey!

what they attack: EVERYTHING THEY HEAR, OR THAT MOVES!

survivors: very very little, like near 100-1000 people on EARTH

guns: This is real time, being your neighboorhood and everything, you have all the resources you have in your house.

cure: there is none.

where to go: so long as you have a plan to get their, go for it.

how much you can carry: AGAIN, THIS IS REAL TIME

family members: theres a high chance they are zombehs too.
able to join: if you didn't read, just make a good plan.

durability: they can take ALOT of damage, worse than playing last stand 2 with just a pistol for the entire game when the zombies have twice as much life.

doors: they can't work a doorhandle for the mostpart of their brain is already rotted
I am still making my plan right now, but I think some of you can do it. Let the zombie surviving begin!

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Lathus
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You didn't post........lathus, did you make an alt? Just a question, no conclusion yet.


I made this account just so I could participate in this, no reason for me to make another...

haha, Good joke. In that game, you can find random machine guns. Thats not gonna happen.


Think of it this way, if there were survivors that looted gun stores or the like (which is part of almost everybody's plan), and there are no survivors in the cities/suburbs you play in, They would probably have died while fighting, therefore, there equipment would be found in random places.

Saferooms: probably made by the government to allow survivors to hide out in. watch the L4D2 trailer. theirs even has directions.

Health packs: think medevac. there was obviously some kind of attempted evacuation. medical personel/vehicles were overrun, leaving their first aid kits.

Pills: Find'em in any pharmacy.

Adrenaline: even i don't know why these are here.

There you go, now you understand my reasoning.
FlyinHawaiin
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@lathus

yeah all that stuff makes sense, but what about the random pipe bombs, molotovs, and boomer biles that are in l4d, so why would those be in a real zombie apocalypse since you compared l4d to one

Devoidless
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You wake up one day and look out the window. It's a beautiful day; the sun is shining, the birds are singing, the zombies are feasting upon the innards of he living... dear God. You let out a scream, still too asleep to recall your zombie fighting and defense tactics. As expected, this attracts the zombies to your location. You can't stay in your house, there are too many grounded windows, and you can't just make a break for it, as the zombie horde is simply too huge. you look around the house and take a look at the mob from several angles before concluding that there is no break in the crowd, but you need to get to the car. You don't have any guns at hand, so you use some of the things at the front door to make a makeshift weapon/shield/etc. You'll need to think fast, the zombies are closing in on you from the other rooms.

The items at the door are:
An umbrella
A hat rack
Some lighter fluid
Your small toolbox, containing:
A flint lighter
Some screwdrivers
A small wrench
A small hammer
A leash belonging to your sister
And the car keys

What do you do?


That's...simple. But would be nice if you defined "horde." As in how many.

Anyway.

Screwdrivers are the weapons. Pierce heads..err...walls...like a pro with the Stabinator 2000! And you can totally pull off awesome one-liners like "Guess you're screwed, buddy."

Leaving the rest of the tools in the tool box, wrap the leash around it at least once and leave a good amount hanging free. Look, you got a flail for crowd control. Depending on the weight and other factors, it would be easy enough to knock down two or so zombies.

And, if you really wanted to, you could use the hat rack as a shield of sorts. But you'd have to forget the box flail. You'd need the leash to lash the rack to your blocking arm. That, and most people could not block and flail at the same time. Block and fail, yes.

Finally, douse yourself in lighter fluid and set yourself on fire. Who wants to nom a flaming thing?
Lathus
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Leaving the rest of the tools in the tool box, wrap the leash around it at least once and leave a good amount hanging free. Look, you got a flail for crowd control.


Look, you got a really heavy thing at the end of a string that because of your lack of Arnold Swarzinegerness, you can't flail!

@lathus
yeah all that stuff makes sense, but what about the random pipe bombs, molotovs, and boomer biles that are in l4d, so why would those be in a real zombie apocalypse since you compared l4d to one


Pipe bombs: watch terminator 1, they made'em out of mothballs, and other household items.

Molotovs: THEY'RE BOTTLES OF BEER WITH RAGS STICKING OUT OF THEM FOR PETE'S SAKE!

Boomer Biles: Um... ER... Look! the Good Year Blimp (jk). Well, perhaps the military discovered its use, bottled it, and used it as a diversion when evacuating/exterminating.
Devoidless
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...It even says it is a 'small toolbox.'

Last time I checked, you do not need to be an aging movie star to swing a small object around.

Lathus
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...It even says it is a 'small toolbox.'
Last time I checked, you do not need to be an aging movie star to swing a small object around.


Make a large paper ball
hold a small lead ball.
which one's heavier?


Small item's may still be heavier than larger ones.
besides, learn physics, man, theres no way in heck that you'd be able to use a small tool box effectively on a leash. the best result would be a zombie tumbling over just to get back up again.
Devoidless
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Small item's may still be heavier than larger ones.
besides, learn physics, man, theres no way in heck that you'd be able to use a small tool box effectively on a leash. the best result would be a zombie tumbling over just to get back up again.


Well, durr. All I said it would do is knock them over. Not aiming to kill, aiming to get them out of my way for a few precious seconds.

Small red tool box
Really want to tell me that would be impossible to do as mentioned with? Inertia and centrifugal force. All anyone needs.
Cenere
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Zombies doesn't just jump to their legs, it will take them some seconds if not more to get up, and if they fall into each other, it can take a while.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Klassischer-Flegel.jpg/180px-Klassischer-Flegel.jpg
Besides, this was once a effective weapon, and the concept is largely the same as the one Voidless is going for.
It has been proven that while it would take some time to learn how to use it effectively, it still could cause great damage in the hands of an untrained soldier. And as it is not going to be used more than for a moment, I doubt it would end up causing trouble.

Lathus
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Besides, this was once a effective weapon, and the concept is largely the same as the one Voidless is going for


Really want to tell me that would be impossible to do as mentioned with? Inertia and centrifugal force. All anyone needs


Ok... Ok.... I see how it is, all the moderators are all ganging up on me. let's have a civilized conversation, first, how long is the leash intended to be after you've tied it up?
@Cenere,
even if used for a moment, his lack of experience would cause him to almost indubidably harm hisself on near the first try. Each stroke, despite the strength and ruthlessness displayed, also requires the finess and skill to hit your opponent yet, miss yourself on the way back, which, let me tell you, isn't easy.

@Voidless
Mass multiplied by distance = resistance.
Flails have a chain about a foot and one half long. how long is yours?
Lathus
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Also, i've always wondered, how in the world do you become a moderator?

Cenere
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@Cenere,
even if used for a moment, his lack of experience would cause him to almost indubidably harm hisself on near the first try. Each stroke, despite the strength and ruthlessness displayed, also requires the finess and skill to hit your opponent yet, miss yourself on the way back, which, let me tell you, isn't easy.

Have you ever tried swinging, say, a bucket of sand around? I have, and I have yet to get hurt. As long as it is kept either in motion or is hitting an opponent, it does not hurt you. It is when it is starting to loose speed it gets dangerous.
But I guess I am just lucky never to be killed by iron buckets and masses of sand, water or stone...
Just saying. And not ganging up either, just trying to explain that it is a better idea than, say, using the umbrella as a shield, which was my idea.
Lathus
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@Cenere
My idea too, but i am also trying to prove a point.
Try swinging the bucket while its on a string the size of a leash, I swear I have yet not to get hurt. strings, for some horrible reason, cause you to lose nearly all of your control. And really, If you were to get hurt, you'd automatically become zombie chow.

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@Voidless
Mass multiplied by distance = resistance.
Flails have a chain about a foot and one half long. how long is yours?


Based on the normal length of a leash, let's say about 7-9 inches. So Not all that long. Just enough to give me enough force to get the desired effect and enough distance between me and them.

Now, see, I've used an actual flail before. Not to bash in skulls or the like, mind you. Just when I get bored. At first it was a little troublesome to wield, yet it was not all that bad. And keep in mind the tradition flail (which Cen posted a pic of) has a long wooden shaft. That really changes the dynamics of how it is used. Without the shaft, it is more of a...how to put it...full arm swing ordeal. With a traditional flail, you need some amount of wrist control to properly control it and snap the chain at the right moment for best results. Sans shaft, you more or less just using it like a chain. With a weight on the end. Pendulum style. Arching back and forth. Which any two-bit hack can do.
Cenere
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My idea too, but i am also trying to prove a point.
Try swinging the bucket while its on a string the size of a leash, I swear I have yet not to get hurt. strings, for some horrible reason, cause you to lose nearly all of your control. And really, If you were to get hurt, you'd automatically become zombie chow.

I did mention I have tried swinging a bucket in a rope, right? I didn't, huh. Well, good reason to be angry with me, but I too am trying to prove a point, and until the day I get hurt by swinging around a bucket in a rope (great detail *facepalm*), I would say it isn't much of a change to swing around a toolbox, as long as it is in motion of all times.
Lathus
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you do realize that seven inches is the length of the longest line in your post? trust me, I measured.

I also think this fact was overlooked, how do you plan on tying the leash to the toolbox?

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