This thread has become incredibly inappropriate, not that it was ever appropriate in the first place. The degradation of women that some of you are expressing is disgusting and offensive. I am very disappointed in the amount of members that took part in this discussion, and supported this. Not to mention the fact that it was allowed to get to 17 pages before it was reported. And it is sad that there is so little respect for women, that none of the men in the community even came forward to report it. This is a community of respect. And I expect respect for both men and women here.