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dragon624
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what do you think about it whatever you think i wont judge you i just want to know your views

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Drace
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Humans have an inborn conscious spiritual desire, but why?


They don't.
Hint: Atheists ARE human

Gods and other super naturals are put into culture a long time ago to make the people obedient.

Each religion does in some way promote way peace of mind and heart, as well as promotion of the general welfare of mankind.


By using the fear of going to hell. Men are self interested, any attempts to break that nature is manipulation. Religion takes it too far.

Various groups started their own theories, and each theory advanced and spread to create "religion."


Theories? Religions are stories, one after another.
P.S, religions completely differ, and they existed before coming into contact with others.
Agent_86
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By using the fear of going to hell. Men are self interested, any attempts to break that nature is manipulation. Religion takes it too far.
Well, it works. It's been around for thousands of years.
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Well, it works. It's been around for thousands of years.


Not just Christianity...Ancient Egyptians believed that the Pharaoh were direct descendants of the Gods, and thus were forced to obey them, or face severe punishment not only in the physical world, but the spiritual world as well.

One of the only religions that I have studied that has no set punishment system is the Greek/Roman pagan religion. The spirits just floated around in the River Styx, with obvious exceptions.
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Not just Christianity...Ancient Egyptians believed that the Pharaoh were direct descendants of the Gods, and thus were forced to obey them, or face severe punishment not only in the physical world, but the spiritual world as well.
That was my point... Almost All religions have a reward/punishment system that keeps people from going out of line.
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Last I checked (which was a while ago so my count may be off, so sue me) there are 54 official major religions in the world, and each one thinks that it's the "right" religion. I say pick one that you like and stick with it.

The problem with that is that there are perhaps hundreds of different christian groups or "offshoots"; Protestant, Catholic, Presbytarian, Apostalic, etc. However, I believe that for a religion to truly call itself Christian, it has to follow the book that is the base for all these offshoots; The Bible.

For a religion to be truly Christian, they have to follow the Bible, and not just the parts they find appealing.

For example, the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong. Therefore, any christian religious group that promotes or even allows homosexuality is false religion.

By doing this you can weed out several supposedly christian religions.

Then you have to take into account other religions, for example Islam and Judaism. How much do they and their offshoots follow their holy books, the Koran etc.

By looking at each religion and finding how much they follow their holy book, and how much they use their book in teaching, you can pick out which ones are and are not right.

If you want to go deeper in finding out the right religion, look at how accurate their holy books are. Do they conflict with eachother, or contain history that is not accurate or has any error in it?

If there is a god, he would make sure there was one true religion on Earth, and the holy book that he would give to mankind would be perfect, just as he is.
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Religions says science is lies. Science created the internet therefore science created AG. Religions says Ag is lies.

Anyway I just wanted to say that I don't believe in religion I don't think religion is good. Since in the USA they want to teach creationism at school...weird....anyway how can the earth be created in 5000 years that just doesn't work.

God created earth in 7 days chuck norris created god in 3 secs science created chuck norris in a picosecond.

Science is more fun than god XD

IQAndreas
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anyway how can the earth be created in 5000 years that just doesn't work.

Actually, many religions teach that, which makes absolutely no sense. Carbon dating proves that the earth has been around for a lot longer than that.

I recently read an interesting article about that topic. Let me see if I can find it...
Drace
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Religions says science is lies. Science created the internet therefore science created AG. Religions says Ag is lies.


anyway how can the earth be created in 5000 years that just doesn't work.


It doesn't at all. Religion itself ignores science completely. In defense as a theist, I'll state that God is unknown therefore his reasons are completely unknown. I explain this by saying that our logic only adheres to our reality, and because God is of another universe, we cannot explain it.

Thus, asking questions how or why questions is dumb.



Actually, many religions teach that, which makes absolutely no sense. Carbon dating proves that the earth has been around for a lot longer than that.


God put them there :P
IQAndreas
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This is from a very fascinating book I have been reading recently.

Lifeâ"How Did It Start?
Recoiling from these conclusions are the "scientific creationists." But their interpretation of the Genesis creation account has led them to claim that the earth is only 6,000 years old and that the six "days" allowed in Genesis for creation were each only 24 hours long. But does such an idea accurately represent what the Bible is saying? Was the earth, and all its life forms, created in just six literal days? Or is there a reasonable alternative?

In considering questions related to the origin of life, popular opinion or emotion sway many. To avoid this and to reach accurate conclusions, we need to consider the evidence with an open mind. It is interesting to note, too, that even evolutionâs best-known advocate, Charles Darwin, indicated an awareness of his theoryâs limitations. In his conclusion to The Origin of Species, he wrote of the grandeur of the "view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one" thus making it evident that the subject of origins was open to further examination.

Before proceeding further, a clarification may be helpful: Scientific achievement is not at issue here. Every informed person is aware of the amazing accomplishments of scientists in many fields. Scientific study has dramatically increased our knowledge of the universe and of the earth and of living things. Studies of the human body have opened up improved ways of treating illnesses and injuries. Rapid advances in electronics have ushered in the computer age, which is altering our lives. Scientists have performed astounding feats, even sending men to the moon and back. It is only right to respect the skills that have added so greatly to our knowledge of the world around us, from minutely small things to infinitely large ones.

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Obviously, there are profound differences between the theory of evolution and the Genesis creation account. Those who accept evolution contend that creation is not scientific. But in fairness, it could also be asked: Is evolution itself truly scientific? On the other hand, is Genesis just another ancient creation myth, as many contend? Or is it in harmony with the discoveries of modern science? And what about other questions that trouble so many: If there is an all-powerful Creator, why is there so much war, famine and disease that send millions to an early grave? Why would he permit so much suffering? Also, if there is a Creator, does he reveal what the future will hold?


And the beginning of chapter 3 goes into more detail:
What Does Genesis Say?

AS WITH other things that are misrepresented or misunderstood, the first chapter of the Bible deserves at least a fair hearing. The need is to investigate and determine whether it harmonizes with known facts, not to mold it to fit some theoretical framework. Also to be remembered, the Genesis account was not written to show the "how" of creation. Rather, it covers major events in a progressive way, describing what things were formed, the order in which they were formed and the time interval, or "day," in which each first appeared.

2 When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth. So it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'â"Genesis 1:14-18.

3 The first part of Genesis indicates that the earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis "day," though it does not say for how long. However, it does describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day" began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."â"Genesis 1:2.

How Long Is a Genesis "Day"?

4 Many consider the word "day" used in Genesis chapter 1 to mean 24 hours. However, in Genesis 1:5 God himself is said to divide day into a smaller period of time, calling just the light portion "day." In Genesis 2:4 all the creative periods are called one "day": "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day [all six creative periods] that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

5 The Hebrew word yohm, translated "day," can mean different lengths of time. Among the meanings possible, William Wilsonâs Old Testament Word Studies includes the following: "A day; it is frequently put for time in general, or for a long time; a whole period under consideration . . . Day is also put for a particular season or time when any extraordinary event happens."1 This last sentence appears to fit the creative "days," for certainly they were periods when extraordinary events were described as happening. It also allows for periods much longer than 24 hours.

6 Genesis chapter 1 uses the expressions "evening" and "morning" relative to the creative periods. Does this not indicate that they were 24 hours long? Not necessarily. In some places people often refer to a man's lifetime as his "day." They speak of "my father's day" or "in Shakespeareâs day." They may divide up that lifetime "day," saying "in the morning [or dawn] of his life" or "in the evening [or twilight] of his life." So 'evening and morning' in Genesis chapter 1 does not limit the meaning to a literal 24 hours.

7 "Day" as used in the Bible can include summer and winter, the passing of seasons. (Zechariah 14:8) "The day of harvest" involves many days. (Compare Proverbs 25:13 and Genesis 30:14.) A thousand years are likened to a day. (Psalm 90:4; 2 Peter 3:8, 10) "Judgment Day" covers many years. (Matthew 10:15; 11:22-24) It would seem reasonable that the "days" of Genesis could likewise have embraced long periods of timeâ"millenniums. What, then, took place during those creative eras? Is the Bible's account of them scientific? Following is a review of these "days" as expressed in Genesis.
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Religions says science is lies. Science created the internet therefore science created AG. Religions says Ag is lies.


Not all religions say this, mainly Christianity says this but my religion of Paganism doesn't
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I have my 2 points in Religion:

1. Have faith in your religion.
2. Respect other religions.

Drace
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Thise 2 contradict...

SuperzMcShort
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That's not true at all Drace. You can believe something without need validation from others around you who believe differently.

Drace
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Having faith in my religion would mean that I believe it is the only right one. Having respect for other religions when I know it is my stories are true and yours are false does not work.

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[quoteHaving faith in my religion would mean that I believe it is the only right one. Having respect for other religions when I know it is my stories are true and yours are false does not work.[/quote] Disagreeing with someone is not bad, but disrespecting is. What I mean is I think you should follow your religion and not have a hate for those of other religions.

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