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Agent_86
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Many have posted about the mass particle collider that powered up yesterday, and the fact is, we aren't out of the woods yet! The EU scientists are going to run it at higher and higher power until they can run it safely at full power.

For those who don't know, the mass particle collider is 17 miles(22km) long and shaped in a circle. The way it works is they take protons and use huge magnets to accelerate them to nearly the speed of light, then smash them together. According to the theory of relativity(e=mc2), so much energy bottled up in such a tiny amount of space could cause the energy to transform into subatomic particles. These perticles, supposedly part of the Big Bang, could help scientists understand the beginning of the universe. The particle they are looking for is supposedly heavier than they expected, and if it sticks around, its gravity could mean the creation of a black hole...

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Necrotic
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Ah yes, that old LHC=Death by black hole belief (if that is what you're trying to imply). Well, black holes don't last forever (according to sir Stephen Hawking), and how much exactly is "heavier than expected". You would need quite some mass to create a black hole big enough to do some damage. But, then again, they didn't actually collide any protons yet, so who knows...to me, there is no such thing as "impossible" or "certain"

I believe that this is a pivotal point in the development of physics. The data revealed by this collider will rock the foundation of physics whatever we gather from it.

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Ah yes, that old LHC=Death by black hole belief (if that is what you're trying to imply). Well, black holes don't last forever (according to sir Stephen Hawking), and how much exactly is "heavier than expected". You would need quite some mass to create a black hole big enough to do some damage. But, then again, they didn't actually collide any protons yet, so who knows...to me, there is no such thing as "impossible" or "certain"
I believe that this is a pivotal point in the development of physics. The data revealed by this collider will rock the foundation of physics whatever we gather from it.
That's my point: we don't know what will happen with this collider, and we aren't out of the woods yet when it comes to the chance of us being sucked up by a black hole.

Others are attributing the string of powerful earthquakes yesterday to the start of this collider. I think it's a bunch of crap, but it could be posible...
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I hope a giant teleportation energy sphere appears in the center of the ring, and we are able to travel through time and space. woo! It doesn't matter what happens, the longer they run it, the higher chance there is of something bad happening. Its going to be interesting to see what happens and what they will discover. Its amazing how fast they will be able to accelerate protons btw.

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More fear-mongering. It's just like SARS, Global Warming, Bird Flu, and the Ozone depleting. They exist in small scales, but aren't a big deal.

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I am detecting large quantities of ignorance in this sector, captain.

Fire videos! Pew pew pew

Also, I thought this was an interesting comment:

If not for the US Congress, TEXAS would have had a super collider SEVERAL TIMES LARGER than the LHC. After 2 billion dollars and several years, congress chickened out and pulled the plug in the early 90's on what would have been a boon to mankind... CHEAP ASS IDIOTS!!!! Meanwhile we continue to spend TRILLIONS in the most sensible ways Talk about a WASTE!


(though the key factors of the atom smasher NOT being built in Texas had little to do with congress being "chicken&quot
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Not again...
I'll have to post this here.

What are the odds the Large Hydron Collider will destroy the Earth.?

Microscopically small. You have to realise, anything we try to do with particle accelerators is happening millions of times more often and millions of times more powerfully at the top of our atmosphere where high energy cosmic rays are pounding down on the Earth. If this hasn't led to the destruction of mankind in the last 4 billion years, the LHC is going to be fine.



Btw, take note, these black holes are super small, and will hardly last.

That's my point: we don't know what will happen with this collider, and we aren't out of the woods yet when it comes to the chance of us being sucked up by a black hole.


Yes we do, because of scientific highly educated &quotredictions".
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Btw, take note, these black holes are super small, and will hardly last.


We were talking about this in my AP physics class today. The machine is supposed to get the particles up to 99.999% of the speed of light, and then create the same effect as one trillionth of a second after the Big Bang happened.

Also, I guess another physicist tried to file a suit to get them to stop the use of the particle accelerator, but was denied because he had little to no proof of what would happen.

Multiple small black holes could be created, then disappear.

One black hole could appear, and continue to grow.

Absolutely nothing.

Etc.

Personally, I think that we shouldn't be meddling with stuff like this. It's true that it's the biggest physics experiment in history, and could give a huge help to science, but still...A 1/50,000,000 is too high a chance to put the whole world at risk.
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someone please lock this... there have been so many threads like this

Drace
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Personally, I think that we shouldn't be meddling with stuff like this. It's true that it's the biggest physics experiment in history, and could give a huge help to science, but still...A 1/50,000,000 is too high a chance to put the whole world at risk.


Way less then that.
Its perfectly safe and I'm 10000000% for it.
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Im more of a go with the flow person, if the world ends, then it ends...
There is no point in worrying about it

iceburn
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The odds are against the world ending, and if we succeed there would be so much to gain.

Drace
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Really, I think the scientists conducting the experiment would shit their pants if they knew there were those chances.

Most of the real scientists who are experts on the subject say the little black hole theory is false. I'll have to go with them.

I'm not sure what we are even discussing. We certainly are not arguing whether if such a thing could happen...
We know nothing of the matter anyway.

Seems like there are the total critics and those who say "Oh well just have to see". Mmm, no discussion then.

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exactly, someone should lock this

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Im gonna be honest. There Is a percent chance that it could cause a dark hole. Talked about it in physics. The truth is that most scientists couldn't give a shit about what happens as long as it evolves science. They are too involved in making more moeny and advances is technology. I agree it would be cool to see that. But the slightest percent of a chance (which is close to 1%) that the world could end is kinda stupid. And the fact that they are gonna keep trying it just makes it even dumber. If the dark hole keeps on growing and then disappears, are you ppl so ignorant as to beleive that wont do anything? It could suck in quite a bit of shit, or even condense and pull the earth in.... Who knows. Rlly a dark hole forming somewhere close to the earth is bad.... A dark hole on the earth... That would suck massive d!ck... It may be a few tiny ones for like a couple of seconds, but that would be enough to start sucking in the chamber it was originally made it, and start to cause massive pressure around everything. So ya we definately aren't outta the woods yet. STOP TESTING....

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But the slightest percent of a chance (which is close to 1%) that the world could end is kinda stupid.


Your teaching is no expert. Think again...1% >_>

Ill post this again:

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I am detecting large quantities of ignorance in this sector, captain.

Fire videos! Pew pew pew

Also, I thought this was an interesting comment:

If not for the US Congress, TEXAS would have had a super collider SEVERAL TIMES LARGER than the LHC. After 2 billion dollars and several years, congress chickened out and pulled the plug in the early 90's on what would have been a boon to mankind... CHEAP *** IDIOTS!!!! Meanwhile we continue to spend TRILLIONS in the most sensible ways Talk about a WASTE!

(though the key factors of the atom smasher NOT being built in Texas had little to do with congress being "chicken&quot


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Not again...
I'll have to post this here.

What are the odds the Large Hydron Collider will destroy the Earth.?

Microscopically small. You have to realise, anything we try to do with particle accelerators is happening millions of times more often and millions of times more powerfully at the top of our atmosphere where high energy cosmic rays are pounding down on the Earth. If this hasn't led to the destruction of mankind in the last 4 billion years, the LHC is going to be fine.
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