ForumsWEPRIn a democratic society, should felons retain the right to vote?

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necromancer
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Should they retain the right to vote? Why or why not?

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ShintetsuWA
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Why shouldn't they? Every citizen has the right to vote, even if they blew up a building. Granted that if they are in prison, they have to give the ballot over, or not vote at all, but for the gist of it, it isn't a problem if they vote or not.

Agent_86
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Well, the thing is, if you have been convicted of a horrible crime and go to jail for a long time, you shouldn't be rewarded with some thing others take for granted, like government handouts and voting.

millahnna
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THe problem lies in the fact that many who have completely fulfilled the terms of their jail sentence (lesser felony charge to begin with, paid fines, served parole with no problems, etc) and are supposed to, by current law, regain their voting rights, often don't.

As for the law itself, for me it depends on the felony for worldview reasons. I take serious issue with many things that are considered felonies being such and would have no problem with those people regaining their voting rights. The crimes I consider more serious (child abuse as an example) I do lean against them having voting rights but I can't say I've thought it through completely in regards to fairness and the like.

Agent_86
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Well, you'd have to put the line somewhere, and that's where they decided to put the line. But I agree. If I go out and practice my nunchucks out in my front yard and a Monrovia Police officer sees me, I can't vote for the rest of my life...

Eshploded
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Huh. Well they do have a history of making bad choices.

Boyinawell
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They know the costs of the crimes they commit, and losing their right to vote is one of them, so really, its no ones fault but their own. Criminals abuse other peoples rights, and so should have none of their own.

Agent_86
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That's very true, but with many is the issue of why the threshold is so low. There are many "minor" crimes that are considered felonies and anyone convicted of them are stripped of their rights...

millahnna
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They know the costs of the crimes they commit, and losing their right to vote is one of them, so really, its no ones fault but their own.


But they also know that getting their voting rights back upon completion of their punishment is supposed to be granted. And yet it often isn't (sometimes for mild misdemeanors).
crimsonblade55
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The thing is committing a crime has punishments more than just jail time and fines.It includes stripping people of certain rights as punishment.Like voting,jury duty,getting a license,getting a job easily.I say just don't commit the crimes and it won't matter.That includes misdemeanors.You can't name one that isn't the persons fault,that I am aware of.

Drace
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I would suggest a restriction only if their felony might affect their decision. Other wise, whats the point?

Agent_86
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What do you mean, Drace? Could you give me an example?

Zootsuit_riot
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Example: Gun control laws. If the person was a gun murderer, why should they be allowed to vote for gun control that they have already abused?

Agent_86
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Well, you would have to go through every law in the books and look for exceptions...
That would take forever...

Ninjacube
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I don't know, not being a democrat. If they knew anything though, they wouldn't let them.

Drace
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Well, you would have to go through every law in the books and look for exceptions...
That would take forever...


Its not like its going to be published into a rulebook.
Its just if a poll comes out, it can be restricted to felonies.

I would think there really isn't any examples of a person's crime affecting their decision. It would be too small of a percentage anyway. Thus making this useless.

Oh and considering everyone votes for their interests...
Then my answer is yes of course.

I would wonder what felony would want to vote anyway.
They surely must have a strong opinion on the matter.
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