ForumsWEPRI think that everyone needs to know the truth.

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Ricador
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Recently, Obama's involvement with two Supremist groups and Muslim terrorists, and his hate pastor for twenty years, has been showing up on the press. Newspapers and TV shows have slowly been uncovering it. Since it has not hit the media like a rocket yet, as it is only developing this week and is kind of scattered, Sean Hannity took everything that has been uncovered and stuck it in one hour. (Prolly only like 40 min. though due to commercials). It is what made me scared for this country if Obama is elected. I think EVERYONE needs to see this. (It's broken into six videos because it's on youtube...and that's what they do).

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Video 2
Video 3
Video 4
Video 5
Video 6

BTW, even the New York times was reporting this and accusing Obama, and they are a newspaper that supports Obama and has contributed to him.

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kris1027
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Do i just go into NYT archives or something (if they have them(? Because it;s not like it was today's paper...


I would believe so.
Ricador
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Well i can't find a link that says archives. I will still try of course.

I could check the library for past issues to see oif they have anything. And then like take a digital picture of it? I don't know if that would work...i am going to go search some more.

kris1027
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Well I'd would be interested in seeing it. I personally like links and proof before I believe anything that is told to me.

Ricador
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Yah i know. I have searched NYK times "archives" (the best "archives" i could find), and all it had were that McCain was supposed to, and would hopeful bring up the subject tonight. Which he did.

I will still try though :P

I will also include other sites to. And i am going to see if Un-biased places like C-SPAN and NBC have it on the net...

Ricador
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Oh and BTW, does anyone know what Ayers group was called? Because i can't remember, and i think that it would help if i could search the group name with Obama instead of searching the word ayers...

Ricador
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Ah never mind, it is the Weathermen Underground.

Ricador
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Oh wow. He was only Eight. My apologies, i could have swarn the date was 1984, not 1974. Anyways, that does not change this debate. Obama was still involved with him none the less.

Zootsuit_riot
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Obama was still involved with him none the less.


Ayers is a professor. They were involved in a group for education reform. Along with several Republican figureheads.
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And i would like to revive the point about Obama's pastor for 20 years. He was the black guy (i'm NOT being raciest, although he is) who preached about how whites should be killed and wiped from the Earth. Because God wants them dead and blacks are the true race. Obama sat and listened to his sermons for 20 years, he liked them, he agreed with them, and he even quoted them in one of his books and used them in a good way.


I'll admit things Rev. Wright said were a bit extreme, but he didn't even come close to saying that. Please give a link to where you read that.
kris1027
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I will also include other sites to. And i am going to see if Un-biased places like C-SPAN and NBC have it on the net...


I would like to see that from any other news outlet aside from the neo conservative places like FOX.

all it had were that McCain was supposed to, and would hopeful bring up the subject tonight. Which he did.


And frankly it made him look like a fool. Instead of talking about issues he starts grasping for straws. I didn't see Obama bringing up Palin's proven wrongdoings and ties to loonies.
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Also...

I don't see how they can be biased in those videos, they are not sharing opinions in a debate, they are giving out facts. You can't be biased on facts, only opinions.


Propaganda anyone? If Obama was a terrorist, wouldn't there be a warrant out for his arrest? There was for Ayers and his girlfriend, so if Obama was involved, why would he not have been arrested?
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obama is clean on terrorism though

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I truly think this whole thread is quite a joke,because it is made up based of fear tactics and things that can't be proven for the most part and also Fox news has too much of a reputation of being one of the most biased news stations on the air.I watch CNN for the most part,and sometimes MSNBC,and NBC,but they are no where near as biased,or for any matter hypocrites for the fact that they call themselves "Fair & Balanced" and the only station that is.Anyways I don't really waist my time with all of this anyways.Also why has it come to where everyone thinks that if your a Muslim,you are somehow automatically a terrorist.I am not saying that is the exact case here,but I have seen that as a growing issue.Also his name comes from probably his father who was from Kenya,and much of Africa was,and still should be filled with a majority of Muslims,b/c of military campaigns during the medieval era,I believe while Muhammad was still alive.Anyways to stay on topic though even though his name may have a Muslim origin in some way,and it may have something to do with those associations you are talking about,but he was not raised by his father or by anyone of that origin,but was raised by his grandparents who I am going to assume were Christians for the fact that he kept that religion.I do not know the exact denomination though,but if someone wants to look that up then they can do so.I have to go now,but may have more time in the morning to go into better detail on this subject.

kris1027
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Also why has it come to where everyone thinks that if your a Muslim,you are somehow automatically a terrorist.


Well I actually agree. You can be an extremist radical christian and nobody bats an eyelash.

The funny part is that his mom was an atheist and his grandparents christian. He had absolutely no muslim upbringing. But his father, who abandoned him, was a muslim turned christian. Which is a hot button word that the average American will hear and go into freak mode. In the end though I do believe that we wouldn't even be having this conversation if he was white.
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All these accusations are just another part of the campaign, but the point is, PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT A GROUP NAMED AFTER A TYPE OF NUT!!!

People care about their retirement funds and if they can still hand in their badge at age 62. John McCain is chasing the wrong issue. I would vote for McCain if I could, but it's the truth. Right now, people care about the economy.

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