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Anyway.
exactly although you do call them deists
Deists are not theists strictly. They hold a position somewhere between partial agnosticism and theism that states that they have not seen any signs of God but believe that there will be a sign made apparent to them.
Also the reason for naming things is dependent on the aetiology. The political divide between evolutionism and creationists was a much more recent one than the naming of people who believe in God. As such, the roots of the words were English, because the terms were coined in English-speaking countries.
Evolution isn't a belief. It's a scientific theory. One cannot "believe" in it.
That'd be a technical distinction: yes evolution is a theory, but ultimately one has to "believe" in something if they wish to use it.
One can "believe" in evolution if they believe that it is the best possible explanation, superior to all others, or they believe it is sufficiently valid. I would have to say "I believe in evolution" because I currently use it as the set of premises to base my other arguments.
But more properly in the practice of science one should always be prepared to refine and reexamine said beliefs (support of theories).
That'd be a technical distinction: yes evolution is a theory, but ultimately one has to "believe" in something if they wish to use it. One can "believe" in evolution if they believe that it is the best possible explanation, superior to all others, or they believe it is sufficiently valid. I would have to say "I believe in evolution" because I currently use it as the set of premises to base my other arguments. But more properly in the practice of science one should always be prepared to refine and reexamine said beliefs (support of theories).
No it is a logical distinction. Scientific theories are not the same thing as theological constructs.
Creationists argue that evolution is "only a theory and cannot be proven."
As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. A clear distinction needs to be made between facts (things which can be observed and/or measured) and theories (explanations which correlate and interpret the facts.
A fact is something that is supported by unmistakeable evidence. For example, the Grand Canyon cuts through layers of different kinds of rock, such as the Coconino sandstone, Hermit shale, and Redwall limestone. These rock layers often contain fossils that are found only in certain layers. Those are the facts.
It is a fact is that fossil skulls have been found that are intermediate in appearance between humans and modern apes. It is a fact that fossils have been found that are clearly intermediate in appearance between dinosaurs and birds.
Facts may be interpreted in different ways by different individuals, but that doesn't change the facts themselves.
Theories may be good, bad, or indifferent. They may be well established by the factual evidence, or they may lack credibility. Before a theory is given any credence in the scientific community, it must be subjected to "eer review." This means that the proposed theory must be published in a legitimate scientific journal in order to provide the opportunity for other scientists to evaluate the relevant factual information and publish their conclusions.
Creationists refuse to subject their "theories" to peer reviews, because they know they don't fit the facts. The creationist mindset is distorted by the concept of "good science" (creationism) vs. "bad science" (anything not in agreement with creationism). Creation "scientists" are biblical fundamentalists who can not accept anything contrary to their sectarian religioius beliefs.
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My apologies I had no idea sorry
hmm... what's the big deal with what they are called?
Nothing just that I find it useless and ridiculous to give someone who believes in a specific scientific theory or theistic theory a name just for that one belief as in the previous example I believe in gravitation yet I am not a gravitationist
Creationism is a belief, it's a pure theology-based concept.
I never said creationism wasn't theology based
Evolution isn't a belief. It's a scientific theory. One cannot "believe" in it.
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true (wikipedia) . So it is possible to believe in evolution. There is a difference between religious belief and belief.
Deists are not theists strictly.
Yes but I was just saying that people who believe in god are either called theists or deists although I know little about Deists so I may be wrong.
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true (wikipedia) . So it is possible to believe in evolution. There is a difference between religious belief and belief.
Again, I disagree. It is an important distinction.
The root of the word belief is found in the Anglo-Saxon word "lief," which means: "...to wish for."
A valid scientific theory has stood the test of time. It is based upon rigorous application of the scientific method. Then it is subjected to peer review, so that other scientists may examine the results and test the data to see if they come up with the same results independently of the original publisher. Scientists also tend to share their
So merely saying that a validated scientific theory is a "belief" does not do it proper justice. It is far more than simply wishing for something to be true.
roots do not a word make. belief is really less of a wishing for it to be true but more of a knowing it to be true. And people need to believe in scientific theories because to a human something doesn't exist if no one believes it.
roots do not a word make. belief is really less of a wishing for it to be true but more of a knowing it to be true. And people need to believe in scientific theories because to a human something doesn't exist if no one believes it.
Not true. Scientific theories are credible because they are based upon systematic accumulation of data, analysis, research, experimentation, peer review, and repeatability.
