i'm not sure what you mean ut if its what I so think then it might just be scale. I think of art as something creted out of a passion. It becomes industry when it is just churned out with the main aim of getting money.
That was an epic bump. I doubt that you'll question will be answered any time soon, as this thread was abandoned over a year ago. And I don't think I've ever seen Waldorf active.
If you're wondering what they are, just search Wikipedia. I'd do it but I don't care enough to actually take time out of my day to search something that really doesn't concern me in any way.
