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You should like Sonny 2! its by far the best online rpg game ever created on the internet! In my opinion Sonny 2 is the best game i have ever played on the internet until there comes a Sonny 3

And I knew that would be the first response.
You don't even know if Sonny 3 will be good, or anything about it all.
Sonny was great, I admit that. Sonny 2 was good, not as good as Sonny, and if the pattern continues Sonny 3 will , unfortunately, blow. A lot.
Lets hope that won't happen.

I didn't know Veradux was black...

I just thought he was some kinda of weird purple zombie...

Than what is Felicity, being a Grey Zombie?

Take a gander at the other large Flashes on this site and compare. Now take in fact that Krin is a media student studying abroad. Then think about the fact that he's a human being and cramming in studying, life and gaming. That will explain why he didn't have "above standard" timing and voice acting. Also, there weren't many bugs that were quite vicious. Only the Helm bug. The story is just unraveling. Though he may not have revealed his origins yet I'm sure you've seen movies where the beginning is the end? Ever seen Swordfish? You should. Fo' srlsy. The classes made some sense to an extent. Zombies have excess water so they can use it to their own will. Psy class, Vampire reference? See, what you didn't take in notice were the positives. The background in battling with superb with the clouds moving and the skt and land being separate when you attacked. Or the balance in the equipment. And most important to me the fun references. Always try to look on the sunny side up.

Felicity is a crazy tape stealing knife throwing biker zombie chick girl! Oh and yeah i made a real awesome comment on Sonny 2 and it got me a merit and mrkamikazie Sonny was far worse than Sonny 2 Sonny 2 has more new features like PvP,and more ability to control your teammates and hundreds of more items and in Sonny the story barely made any sense! The characters were all just stupid because when you want them to perform a certain attack they just end up messing it up and you ending up dying Sonny lacked a whole story line because it was all just random! escaping a ship then getting into a haunted beach? and then running into shamans? and then getting into a valley full of illusions?! WHAT CRAZINESS DOES SONNY EVEN HAVE?!

Ooh.... this is gonna be a long one:

Sonny 1 came out last year, around this time... I remember playing it on Newgrounds before the new year. It's not exactly new, it just took a while to get popular, once the game spread to like kongregate as well there was another influx of fanatics. Sonny 2 is only as popular and hyped as it is since it's had so much time to build a fanbase.

ANyways, SS, an admin at krinlabs (Krin's website/forum) predicted a release date of late october, but he doesn't hear from Krin too much so it was off the mark, then he predicted november, then finally, Krin himself told the world that it would come out of December 19, 2008, and it did.

Voice acting is fine by me, do you really expect Krin to like hire people to do voice acting? I'm pretty sure he just got friends to do it instead, if not himself. He's a flash game creator, not some big name developer like EA games. Felicity's voice is way too childish if you listen to the ending of Sonny 2 though.

There are some things I miss about the classes before, but this is simply better. There are 3 classes that are COMPLETELY seperated from each other, different abilities and skill sets, within those classes are two obvious builds for each (hot/cold hydro, shadow/electric psycho, physical/poison bio), although you could make your own hybrid if you wanted. But seriously, is it really that bad that you needed to figure out combos to make the game good? You need to figure out which moves compliment other moves and all. All in all it's good. HOWEVER, I am willing to bet that if Sonny 1 cmae out with classes liek this, it would be too confusing to most and people would write it off as a bad web RPG, but with Sonny 1 having a simpler character build, people are more willing to accept complexity, or at least that's how I see it.

Since when do you see story in flash games? THis has got to be one of the most story involved flash games. Look at the top most popular games on armorgames. Last Stand 2, okay, you have to get to jonestown in 40 days or you are eaten by zombies, story much? no. Gemcraft, you have to battle an evil wizard tha tis corrupting the lands, no storyline progression here either. Simply, there isn't much of a plot in any flash game, and this one has more than almost any other.

This is where the irony sets in. You say you like the originals better. But just 2 paragraphs before you rant about how you hate the new classes, and you like the old classes. Sonny 2 isn't a duplicate since it has completely new and complex classes, but you write it off as a duplicate anyways.

Why give a game it's own forum? I personally think that after a while they should assimilate this back into the other forums, but there is simply too much hype for this game. If they didn't have this forum, the walkthroughs section would be FILLED with Sonny 2 pleas for help.

I'm not going to dislike you just because you don't like Sonny 2, as everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but just pointing out my views on the matter. I mean, seriously, I don't see the point in hating people for their opinions on flash games.

I understand that Krin is a human being, but surely he had friends who could do some voice acting? Its just terrible. I do hope he fixes it.
Everyone already knows about the positives. I was focusing on the negatives, since people say, "Oh look, sequel to my favorite game. I'm going to assume its been improved since the last one and instantly like it even though I haven't played it.". They usually don't take into account of the negatives and make it sound much better than it really is (Like, say, Halo 3.).

I never said the classes didn't make sense, though they do make sense. They just weren't as good as the first's.

*Sigh*, here we go again.

I'm pretty sure he did have friends do voice acting, especially Felicity's voice (which I must say is absolutely horrendous if you heard her monologue at the ending of zone 5).

Focusing on the negatives makes it seem like you don't think of Sonny 2 highly at all, you should try to include both in a detailed review.

Alright, maybe i got it wrong on your classes argument. But seriously, think about the classes in Sonny 1:

Destroyer: Pales in comparison to guardian, it gets the same amount of strength added by defauult every level up (before you allocate points by yourself), and has less magic and vitality stat added compared to guardian. Equips suck compared to guardian. Uses just smash to do damage.

Gunslinger: Pales in comparison to guardian, gets more magic stat by default from leveling up, but that only improves damage of magic bolt, which is weaker than electrobolt, and electrobolt is dependent on strength and magic together. So it is weaker than the guardian once again.

Guardian: Trumps the above 2. It's smash is nearly as good as a destroyer's smash (if you get the right equips in Z4, judgment+torment as weapons). Electrobolt is unrivaled as it has the best combined magic+strength of any class in game.

Assassin: Criticals almost every attack. Consistantly does high damage, almost never misses. It's vitality is surpassed by the guardian, but it's attack power isn't. It's the ultimate class to take on the Z4 bosses since you never want to miss against sinjid.

Basically, there are two classses you SHOULD use. And there are four main attacks: Smash (used by assassin, guardian, and destroyer), electrobolt (used by guardian and gunslinger), magic bolt (used by gunslinger and maybe guardian), and master strike (used by assassin). POint is, there was one skill tree in Sonny 1, and all the skill builds were pretty similar, the guardian encompasses both destroyer and gunslinger builds, and assassin shares part of the build with the destroyer and guardian, not much room for customizability.

In Sonny 2, you ahve 3 skill trees to choose from, and there are two main builds for each, and you can make a hybrid for each one too. Just because theya re more complicated doesn't mean they are worse.

He did have friends to do voice acting. Not everyone's friends have perfect voices and the pseudo-movie theater golden tone pitches you fancy so much. Everyone else was pretty satisfied with the voice acting in Sonny 2. What I would personally like is if he made more classes, less healing with a cool down time and less crits. As well as more balance in piercing and access to all levels of the stage. But Krin can't perfect everything and make it to my custom fit just because I wasn't completely happy. Who in the right mind is going to read a script all over again for no gain just because of a harsh critique?

Also, explain to me why they weren't as good as the first. Were they overpowered enough for you? Not easy enough because we have a mode for that. It's called easy.

I think it's going a little far to ask for more classes. In Sonny 1 the classes all shared one tree and were only different in equips they could use and the stats that were increased by default after each level up.

Sonny 2 has three skill trees, and two basic builds for each tree.

Sonny 2 is way better than the original Sonny for a few reasons...

1. Any class can hold any weapon
2. The classes are simpler yet have different abilities.
3. Sonny 2 has 5 zones that are included in the story and there is yet to have more in later updates while the first Sonny only had 3 zones that went with the story.
4. The first Sonny's glitches made it too easy and the ones in Sonny 2 are going to be fixed.

I completely agee with markedtarget6 except for point 2.

I'd definitely have to argue that Sonny 1 had simpler classes. They all shared the same tree, and the skill choices were obvious (gunslinger uses magic bolt and electrobolt, destroyer and assassin use smash, guardian uses both sides of the tree, assassin also uses master strike).

Sonny 2 definitely has more complicated classes, espeially some of the deeper classes like cold hydro and poison bio. Cold hydro for example, starts out very weak in Zone 1, only having weak debuff attacks to attack the opponent with. However, the whole point of the cold hydro build is to debuff them three times, and then use shatter, which is the source of the damage in the cold hydro build.

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Kaur, this thread is about his review of Sonny II. If you want to post your PvP code, then do so here, please

Personally I find that the second one is quite better. The class differences are more vivid than before. In the first game, you could use the entire tree, but now you have to realize that you have two sub categories. This makes the game more customizable than before. All the classes have methods of getting the job done. It is pretty dang obvious that Krin took a long time to create all those battle systems and what's more, he made them good.

As for December vs October... I'll tell you a secret here. I am a programmer and something you notice is that regardless of how careful you are about coding, you always find something unexpected that delays you. Sometimes you come to discover a fatal flaw and must start over. Also, you may forget that Krin is only one person that has a life outside of AG.

Sonny having its own forum. Unless I am mistaken, Sonny 2 is the highest rated game on the site. Also, it has yet to emerge from final testing. Unlike Sonny1, you cannot yet download it for your own site. This means that it is unfinished, yet it has gone to an open beta testing on AG. Because it is unfinished and popular, people have ideas, and because a lot of people have a lot of ideas, it gets its own forum, lest they spam every other one.