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As some of you know, the AK-47 is among the easiest of fire arms to produce, the most invunerable to jammming, and extremely easy to maintain. It would cost far less for the U.S to use the AK-47 than it would for them to use the M-16 or the M4 carbine, both of which need special cleaning kits to ensure long-term use. And they both require weeks of training for soldiers to use them correctly

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Communist
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M-16's and M4's are much more accurate. The US army relies on accuracy, not blowing people's heads off.


Dude that is the point of killing somebody trying to kill you too. And people always try to score a headshot when they have the chance.
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Yea thats true,i would recommend the M16 the most,it has very good accuracy and damage.But whats good about AK-47
is that never jams and is gas powered so if your ever in the ocean and you could shoot in the water

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Dude that is the point of killing somebody trying to kill you too. And people always try to score a headshot when they have the chance.

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." - Patton

Killing is not about blowing heads off, or style points. The number one objective of a soldier in a war zone is to hit the enemy. I'd rather have the M4/M-16 which can hit pin-point at 550 meters than the AK47 which gets about 200 meters.

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And it would only take a few hours to get a soldier ready to use it.

from the History channel itself... please view

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ak-47&hl=en&emb=1&aq=f#q=ak-47%20top%20ten&hl=en&emb=1

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YEA,the AK-47 is pretty easy to get used ot it my dad sent me a letter that he was going to us it but the sargenat told him no.Hey, i saw that show just two days ago.


*Killing is not about blowing heads off, or style points. The number one objective of a soldier in a war zone is to hit the enemy.*


Yes but what my friend here(dont know if he is my friend:P)is trying to say is that they could get a headshot when ever they can.Not,probaly hwne they are getting ambushed.

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The AK-47 is really around 350 meters after its inventor reveiwed results tested by German weapon designers in WW2 and after tests that have shown all real combat, even with rifles that shoot over 1,000 yards away, takes place at only 300 yards. It's all about visual range, you shoudn't need anything that doesn't have a scope to shoot farther than you van see.

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Oh,i didnt know that but now i know.Ithought the AK-47 could shoot 400 meters.Something that amazes me is that the AK-47 has penetrated my dads bulletproof vest before.

Communist
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The M4 or the M16 would never be able to do that unless it was at point blank range!

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Oh,dang i always thought M16 could do that.The AK-47 is a pretty good weapon.But i forgot who made the AK-47?

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Wow. EVERYONE here is speaking incorrectly. The argument shouldn't be about the type of gun (because anyone will say a bullpup is the best type for all-around usage), but rather the BULLET DESIGN. Man, get with the program.

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I would choose the AK . Not only it's powerful enough to penetrate through thick steal, but like you can see now, the wars the US is having aren't in open territories where you want the accurate M16, but they are in streets, where you need the penetration of the AK-47 . BTW, the AK isn't a rifle, it's actually a machine gun .

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Do you guys know there are already new prototypes of newer m4's?

Meanhis is quite older already hehe.

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Why don't we leave it to the Army because if they think it is viable they would use it.

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Killing is not about blowing heads off, or style points.


Indeed. You are trained to aim at the centre of the torso, because if you are slightly off aim you have more surface area to hit and still have a chance to cause damage. If you aim for the head if you miss by a tiny bit you won't cause any damage at all.

but rather the BULLET DESIGN. Man, get with the program.


M4 bullets are highly lethal often fragmenting on impact causing horrific internal damage, however this means that they do not have the same penetrative power as other types of rounds. This is especially frustrating for troops when fighting in Afghanistan as their bullets are unable to pierce the walls of village compounds. Its a trade off for damage spiercing capabilities.
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You only need somthing that shoots from about a football feild away and kills. The AK-47 can easily do this and can punch through body armor. And if you want somthing as accurate as an M-16 because you just need somthing that shoots really far, then invest in the equally cheap AK-74, with its 5.45 x 39mm round, it is every bit as lethal as an M16 or M4, but has more advantages; it's cheaper and far easier to produce, and it is basically just an upgraded AK-47.

My point: The AK-47 family tree of rifles is every bit as lethal as the M16 or M4 series. They are just far easier to put in mass production, meaning you are getting more than what you paid for. You need no cleaning kits because of its amazing reliability and that just means it will save more soldiers' lives. The Ak-47 and its upgraded cousins are probably the best weapons and the easiest weapons to get your hands on.
After all, why did the Soviet Union use the exact same model for almost 60 years? And why does the new Russian Federation still have the AK as their gun of choice? Because it's easy to produce, cheap, reliable, and with upgrades, rivals the M16 in accuracy.

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