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Answer. I think if we're like 20-40ft away a guy tries to threaten me with a pistol, though shotguns are bigger, they are not super(Depending on what kind compared to other guns.) powerful, I think a pistol would win, I mean really. Now if it's like Dirty Harry, you got that Harpoon, though that will kill, hurt, and be hard to dodge, I would SOS, shoot on sight of him holding that thing threatening me. I think bigger guns are more for show in a movie. Opinions anyone?

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Well think about it. Accuracy, nd speed is an issue. If your using a giant gatling or something, I could pull a pistol and kil lyou long beofre you could turn ai'm and fire that thing at me.

really, size dosn't matter. The only diffrence with most guns is the round size they use. They can shot .33 callibur bullets for instance insstead of a pistols standard .9

Pistols are very quick, easy to aim guns. At distance, and close range they are very usefull.

Shotguns in my eyes are bad al around. They have a spread shot, so anything over a few hundred yars you would be lucky to hit me. The wall behind me might not be lucky but...

So I say that bigger is not allways better.

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Pistols are extremely hard to shoot. you have to have a very steady arm to shoot one. I'd definitely go with an assault rifle.

See!? Lige gets it. Pistols are unsteady and hard to aim with, as I've been trying to tell you people.
When I say a small gun, I'm not always referring to a pistol.

ALL handguns are unsteady.
Assault Rifles! They are a good balance between automatic weapons and submachine guns. They are more compact than machine guns and they pack a more powerful pack than submachine guns. I also acknowledge the fact that you use attachments such as scopes, sights and even grenade launchers of assault rifles. Hurray!

You wouldn't be caught carrying a machine gun around, anyway. They're supposed to be mounted or something.
Also, they often don't have as high firerates as a SMG.

would you rather have 56 bullets flying at an enemy or 7?

You would be surprised by how much some pistols can take...
really, size dosn't matter

False. A small handgun is harder to aim steadily with than an assault rifle or maybe a good sized SMG, not like a small one, like the Mini-Uzi, but like a P90, something you can hold against your shoulder.
The only diffrence with most guns is the round size they use

Again, false. Firerate, firepower, accuracy, physical details... Lets look at the P90 again. It was a gun designed so that it could never get stuck on your clothing or anything. Other guns could do that, but you'll never have that with a P90. Everything thats different in the appearance, in fact, does matter. A longer barrel makes a gun more accurate than one with a short barrel. A P90 with a barrel length of about 10 inches will be more accurate than, say, a Ruger-P, with about 4 inches. Theres also fire modes. The P90 is full auto, at 900 rounds/minute, while a HK MP7 shoots about 950 rounds/minute. The action can be different, as well. The MP5 roller-delayed blowback, closed bolt action, and the T.A.R-21 is a gas operated rotating bolt gun. They also have different muzzle velocities, which will effect the recoil of the gun, making you more or less accurate when shooting automatically or in bursts.
There are lots of different aspects to a gun. You are VERY wrong.
easy to aim guns

No.
At distance, and close range they are very usefull.

Not at a distance, only close range. They're too unsteady to fire at a distance, thats why you have rifles.
Shotguns in my eyes are bad al around. They have a spread shot, so anything over a few hundred yars you would be lucky to hit me. The wall behind me might not be lucky but...

Thats because its a close quarters kind of weapon. You storm the house, shoot everything in sight. Shotguns are great weapons.
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Pistols are extremely hard to shoot. you have to have a very steady arm to shoot one. I'd definitely go with an assault rifle.
See!? Lige gets it. Pistols are unsteady and hard to aim with, as I've been trying to tell you people.
When I say a small gun, I'm not always referring to a pistol.
ALL handguns are unsteady.
Assault Rifles! They are a good balance between automatic weapons and submachine guns. They are more compact than machine guns and they pack a more powerful pack than submachine guns. I also acknowledge the fact that you use attachments such as scopes, sights and even grenade launchers of assault rifles. Hurray!
You wouldn't be caught carrying a machine gun around, anyway. They're supposed to be mounted or something.
Also, they often don't have as high firerates as a SMG.
would you rather have 56 bullets flying at an enemy or 7?
You would be surprised by how much some pistols can take...
really, size dosn't matter
False. A small handgun is harder to aim steadily with than an assault rifle or maybe a good sized SMG, not like a small one, like the Mini-Uzi, but like a P90, something you can hold against your shoulder.
The only diffrence with most guns is the round size they use
Again, false. Firerate, firepower, accuracy, physical details... Lets look at the P90 again. It was a gun designed so that it could never get stuck on your clothing or anything. Other guns could do that, but you'll never have that with a P90. Everything thats different in the appearance, in fact, does matter. A longer barrel makes a gun more accurate than one with a short barrel. A P90 with a barrel length of about 10 inches will be more accurate than, say, a Ruger-P, with about 4 inches. Theres also fire modes. The P90 is full auto, at 900 rounds/minute, while a HK MP7 shoots about 950 rounds/minute. The action can be different, as well. The MP5 roller-delayed blowback, closed bolt action, and the T.A.R-21 is a gas operated rotating bolt gun. They also have different muzzle velocities, which will effect the recoil of the gun, making you more or less accurate when shooting automatically or in bursts.
There are lots of different aspects to a gun. You are VERY wrong.
easy to aim guns
No.
At distance, and close range they are very usefull.
Not at a distance, only close range. They're too unsteady to fire at a distance, thats why you have rifles.
Shotguns in my eyes are bad al around. They have a spread shot, so anything over a few hundred yars you would be lucky to hit me. The wall behind me might not be lucky but...
Thats because its a close quarters kind of weapon. You storm the house, shoot everything in sight. Shotguns are great weapons.


Kid knows his shit.
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Yes, I do. I had to look up the statistics, but I know my shit nonetheless.
Dude, think about it- James Bond was my fucking hero when I was little, and hes still a pimp. I gotta get into violence and guns with that kind of bringing up.

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james bond always used a handgun.

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Yes, a Walther PPK originally, to be specific. And that's because hes a spy- he needs something small that can be concealed oh his person. And, he used firearms, nonetheless, and that's all that matters.

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Yes, a Walther PPK originally, to be specific. And that's because hes a spy- he needs something small that can be concealed oh his person. And, he used firearms, nonetheless, and that's all that matters.


He should use a KA-BAR. That would make him so badass.
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That's a knife, it doesn't belong here.

Also, completely unrelated, just throwing it out there- I just got 11 albums of Steppenwolf. Is this win?

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That's a knife, it doesn't belong here.
Also, completely unrelated, just throwing it out there- I just got 11 albums of Steppenwolf. Is this win?


A man with a KA-BAR could kill half the people here while they're trying to turn off the safety on their auto shotguns. Cause they're retards.

Kind of, they're not my favorite.
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Also, completely unrelated, just throwing it out there- I just got 11 albums of Steppenwolf. Is this win?


I have zero. I'm not a big fan. But that's quite a few. I have close That many Grateful dead albums if you also count records.
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Personally, I prefer either my semi-automatic AR-15 or a three round burst M16. The 5.56 or .223 round is more then enough to kill a person, but is light and easy to carry.
A lot of people like pistols, and their nice, for self defense, but that's all their really good for. Don't you think there's a reason the military goes into combat with $1,000 M16s instead of $450 9mm pistols? A pistol is good for close quater's combat, but after about 50 yards only experienced marksmen can hit their target and past 100 hundred yards it's pure luck, but pistol rounds hit with a lot less energy then rifle rounds, at around 500-600 joules of energy compaired to 1770 or so from a 5.56x45mm. The M16 is accurate to about 200 yards, more in the hands of an experience marksman or someone with time to aim.
Shotguns are good weapons, but again only really for close quaters combat. They shoot a spray, reducing the need to aim, and can easily kill someone up close, but at a distance, not so easily.
Submachine guns are usually good for only one thing really, spray and pray. Again, like pistols, their designed for defense, not offense. Why do you think troops carry M16s and not Uzis.
The .50 caliber is a popular choice, though not a good one. Granted, it's a large caliber weapon and highly lethal, but most people will only be able to get one shot off without doing some serious harm to their shoulder. The weapon is heavy, and expensive, as is the ammunition. You'd have to make every shot count as you could only afford to carry quite limited amounts of ammunition. The .50 caliber rifle is also designed for anti-vehicle work, not anti-personel.
Machine guns are another common choice, but, they eat ammunition quickly, and require training in how to use correctly, as do all weapons. Machine guns are designed to support troops, and they fit that role well.
Sniper rifles are another option, and are a great choice, if you're a sniper. But, it takes a lot more then a high powered rifle and a scope to be a sniper. If it didn't, every deer hunter would be one. It takes a lot of practice and training to be able to hit a target at 700+ yards, including knowing about bullet drop, windage, etc. You can't just pick up a sniper rifle and start shooting, well, if you want to hit something you can't.
Those are my reasons why I would choise something like the semi-automatic AR-15 or three round burst/semi-auto M16. mid range caliber, but enough to easily kill someone. Light enough to carry as much as you need, accurate to as far as you need it to be, and reliable if properly maintained. However, in all reality, the best firearm is the firearm that you know how to use and are experienced with. Soldiers, police, hunters, and recreational shooters practice with their firearms, which is how they know how to use them and use them correctly. There is a reason soldiers have to qualify on the M16 and any other firearm before they can ever use it off of a firing range and then re-qualify on it again every so many months, and that reason is to ensure they know what their doing.

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A man with a KA-BAR could kill half the people here while they're trying to turn off the safety on their auto shotguns. Cause they're retards.

Or you could just not have the auto on.
Plus, its way more hardcore to kill with your fists than a knife. Think about it.
That dude in Pineapple Express was gonna do it.
I have zero. I'm not a big fan. But that's quite a few. I have close That many Grateful dead albums if you also count records.

I downloaded them. My brother has every Dead album as well. They're awesome, but I need to be in a certain mood to listen to em, yknow?
Somewhere we have the original Zoso record here.
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Or you could just not have the auto on.
Plus, its way more hardcore to kill with your fists than a knife. Think about it.
That dude in Pineapple Express was gonna do it.


Depends on the method of death. Stabbings are worse. Guttings/cutting out throats are better.
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500-600 joules of energy

A Desert Eagle can get over 2K joules, actually.
Not exactly accurate, however.
The rest of your post was tl;dr
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Or you could just not have the auto on.
Plus, its way more hardcore to kill with your fists than a knife. Think about it.
That dude in Pineapple Express was gonna do it.

Oops.
Auto=safety.
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