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LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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Warning: Do not clcik if you are offended by "foul" language.

Anyway, I ran into this video somehow, but I just want to know, what your thoughts are on this video and all in it. And does this change your mind about the war, and anyone in it? Because I have seen some, after watching this take a giant leap, and "hate" the soldiers.

For me, It does not really change my image of the troops ect ect. Although it does sometimes make you wonder, how a person really is? Was this person under stress, or was it just plain frustration/hate?

(By the way, not all people are like this, so don't go into the "I hate Americans" talk.)

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Talo
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As a former troop in Afghanistan, this is your standard dumb infantry soldier mentality. He hates living there as much as we all do. Some of us have more tact than this guy, but most people feel like this. And yes it does stink, the air has human shit in it because it's dry and they use it to federalize the land.

This is why we need to do 5 month rotations, not 9 month or 1 year like I had to do.

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The video is not working and is stated as "unavailable". I do not hate soldiers. One's person opinion does not mean that everyone's opinion is the same. That goes with soldiers too. Even if the air does stink and Afghanistan that man shouldn't be saying that. I wouldn't do that. Imagine mocking Americans and criticizing them in their own country. Probably Afghans understood what that soldier said then he would be in dire trouble. The soldier probably was in stress or frustration but I cannot tell because the video does not work.

LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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The video is not working and is stated as "unavailable".


That may just be you, beacuse it still works for me, and seems to be working for Talo.

I see what you mean Talo, anyone else?
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I'd probably be acting the same if I had to fight in a war that should have been over a long time ago.

Zootsuit_riot
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I'd probably be acting the same if I had to fight in a war that should have been over a long time ago.


Or if you got a score lower than 60 on your ASVAB and ended up as Infantry.
LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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Or if you got a score lower than 60 on your ASVAB and ended up as Infantry.


Is infantry really that bad? Who knows, some may like being the "grunt".

I'd probably be acting the same if I had to fight in a war that should have been over a long time ago.


You really can't say when are war is over. I mean when you do fight all the battles ect ect, you have to fight the politics at home.
Talo
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The war in Afghanistan ended in 2004. This is a policing action that should have happened during the Afghanistan/ Russian war. Watch "Charlie Wilson's War" as it explains everything. He is also the same Charlie from "Charlie's Angels"

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Sadly, behaviour like this will always rear its ugly head in war time. I empathise with these troops on the ground, but from what I have heard of many who have served in Afghanistan, probably the most frustrating thing is the rules of engagement they have to abide by. There have been many instances in which they are in a firefight one minute, and the next minute the Taliban fighters drop their weapons, call a taxi and head home in plain view of ISAF forces, but due to these rules they are unable to open fire. Things like this must no doubt mount up on an individual on a tour.

LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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Sadly, behaviour like this will always rear its ugly head in war time. I empathise with these troops on the ground, but from what I have heard of many who have served in Afghanistan, probably the most frustrating thing is the rules of engagement they have to abide by. There have been many instances in which they are in a firefight one minute, and the next minute the Taliban fighters drop their weapons, call a taxi and head home in plain view of ISAF forces, but due to these rules they are unable to open fire. Things like this must no doubt mount up on an individual on a tour.



And with the same rules, people "over here" are shouting "Drop a nuke on em'" as if that would solve anything. I have heard that the rules of engagement are one of the "downsides" to succeading.....Though I can't say from experince.

Watch "Charlie Wilson's War" as it explains everything. He is also the same Charlie from "Charlie's Angels"


Alright, off to youtube.
FireflyIV
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The problem is most people don't really know what the situation is like. Having many relatives who've been over there, they say, the Taliban aren't invincible like many people think. The main thing prohibiting victory, especially in the British South East, is lack of troops and equipment. Many believe that a troop surge in Afghanistan would bring an end to the conflict within the next 5 years. I bet if the public knew that in many place, real progress was being made, there would be more public support for the war, which would probably help everyone involved.

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[quote]Is infantry really that bad? Who knows, some may like being the "grunt".

Yeah infantrys pretty bad bein on the frontlines. Some people would say its just for 18 year olds trying to be badass

LiL_GaNgSta_BlAzE
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Yeah infantrys pretty bad bein on the frontlines. Some people would say its just for 18 year olds trying to be ******


Yeah but then again, some people are not 18 year olds, and can/are doing a 'great' job! But again, one amy like it, the other may hate it. You never know.....

......Should have made a poll.....if only we could.

Anyone else?
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