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Remember the thief who asked jesus to forgive him?Jesus told him he would be in heaven with him, are you saying Jesus lied?

To me, the whole "no good works" thing just seems like a cop out...

I don't believe that faith alone will "always" get you in to heaven. even though it is the most important part. I believe that if someone goes and murders someone, that he is a sinner and can be forgiven. But after he asked the lord to forgive him, he goes and murders again and again each time asking for forgiveness. Almost using his religion as a scapegoat to his wrong doings. when you ask the lord to forgive you, that means that you will try to be better and try to not sin even though it is hard at times. hint the word "christian" it means "Christ-like" being a christian means that you try to follow the teachings of god and Jesus and try to be as pure as you can. But what i don't understand is that if that murderer believed in god, wouldn't he want to be a better person, stop killing people. So maybe he was not a true christian and did not believe but used it as a mental escape to make himself feel better.

But back on topic. I think Mormons are great people with a great a standard of Morales. And they are usually very well disciplined people. But i have one problem with the religion. When Joseph found the extra commandments, they were written on gold! That to me is a slap in the face. Why is it that when the original commandments and scriptures where written the where on plain stone, But this new modern religion finds more in gold? This seems a little odd. It almost seems that their commandments are superior or more important. I hope that my opinion does not offend anyone, I mean that statement in the nicest way possible. I think that Mormons are fine people with great Morales and that there will always be a place for them in heaven

The Bible says nothing about not doing good works. Salvation by faith alone does not mean that you can just accept Christ, then do whatever you want.

hint the word "christian" it means "Christ-like"

The Bible says nothing about not doing good works. Salvation by faith alone does not mean that you can just accept Christ, then do whatever you want.

I am an atheist so obviously, I don't believe that actually happened. But once again I ask, you can be an evil baby eater and you get to waltz up to heaven because you believe in god? But be the nicest person in the world and saved hundreds of lives and you get to rot in hell because you don't?

From what it seems to me is that Mormons are saying you must do both. Believe in god and do good things. Why is that wrong?

Well then your not christian?

Remember the thief who asked jesus to forgive him?Jesus told him he would be in heaven with him, are you saying Jesus lied?

When Joseph found the extra commandments, they were written on gold! That to me is a slap in the face. Why is it that when the original commandments and scriptures where written the where on plain stone, But this new modern religion finds more in gold?

no, Jesus was perfect and did not lie. if you read in the bible, Jesus does not tell the thief that he will be in heaven with him. he states that he will see him in paradise. we believe that after death, there is an in between (sorta like purgatory), where people can learn of God's true gospel. we call it paradise. so we believe the thief was not saved, but Jesus told him that he would see him in the place where he could learn about the gospel. (all people will be here until the Second Coming, and Judgement Day. then people will go to heaven or hell, whether they accept or reject the gospel)

the definition of a Christian is a person who believes in Jesus Christ. so we are Christian.

First that did happen considering the fact it was recorded historicly

It's wrong because by accepting jesus your free of sin, when they say that they are in essence saying Jesus lied, rendering the faith useless.

and thank you bliss and kris. kind people who are not mormons but can respect our religion. i respect you

Demons believe in Jesus. So they're christians?

and then feel bad

So what I said was right. You murder a bush load of nuns and babies and then feel bad and you get to go to heaven.

Samy, how many people have gone through their lives without commiting a single sin?

Yes God loves us that much, he loves us no matter what, and as long as you are free of sin he will take you in.

Well yeah. But as I said, you have to truly repent, not just say you do. What you are doing is taking away the significance of the actions and emotions needed for repentance.