In the end, Hitler "officially" lost the war. However what would you call wiping out millions and millions of people? In my opinion, Hitler himself won a great personal victory. Discuss.
Note: I am not a Nazi, and no I don't hate Jews (I have Jewish relatives).
Over 11,000,000 people died from the holocaust I believe, 1 million were children. He succeeded in ending disabled, sick, Jewish, and different peoples' lives. In the end, he committed suicide, because he knew he lost. If he knew he lost, well then he obviously didn't win the war.
The Holocaust here refers to the killing of Jews. 6 million Jews died. Don't stray from the main issue of killing Jews.
The Holocaust here refers to the killing of Jews. 6 million Jews died. Don't stray from the main issue of killing Jews.
There is disagreement with regards to the definition of the Holocaust in the intellectual community. Some think it should apply to all those affected by the Nazis, others believe it should be a term reffering exculsively to Jews.
Personally I believe it should encompass all of the victims of the Holocaust.
There is disagreement with regards to the definition of the Holocaust in the intellectual community. Some think it should apply to all those affected by the Nazis, others believe it should be a term reffering exculsively to Jews. Personally I believe it should encompass all of the victims of the Holocaust.
Maybe I shouldn't use Holocaust. I meant, this thread.
Also, nicely done nichodemus. Telling me to stay on topic and then being on topic with the next paragraph...
My sense of sarcasm is bad, so my interpretation of the sentence my not be your intention. And I was on topic. I was on topic according to the thread's initial purpose, not according to Strop's sentence.
Hitler had many goals that he was trying to achieve, one of which was the extermination of the Jewish people. Infact his obsession with this goal is why the Germans failed miserably in the end. Instead of defending the homefront he put all resources and man power into the mass murders that was taking place. He was on his way twords that but I wouldn't call it a personal victory for him. Hitler wanted them completely eradicated, which is not the case.
I think we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves here, with the whole intentionalist/annihilationist viewpoint. Up until 1941, the 'Final Solution' was deemed to be the Madagascar plan, and the ultimate solution was the depotation of undesirables in to Siberia. My point is that it is very debatable that the killing of the Jews was what Hitler originally wanted.
My point is that it is very debatable that the killing of the Jews was what Hitler originally wanted.
don't get me wrong hitler was an evil man but i do think its possible the holocaust wasn't hitler's idea
then again wasn't hitler's whole plan to have "aryans" to be the only race i've read about how he wanted to make a utopian world by having only "aryans" so eventually he had to deal with everyone else who wasn't "aryan"
Instead of defending the homefront he put all resources and man power into the mass murders that was taking place.
he lost because of many different reasons i wouldn't say it was all because of the holocaust
However what would you call wiping out millions and millions of people? In my opinion, Hitler himself won a great personal victory.
well his ultimate plan was to create a utopian society of "aryans" so no i wouldn't call it a personal victory quite far from it actually
People let Hitler take over Germany. In 1939 it took 4.2 BILLION Deustchmarks to equal one U.S. dollar, and U.S. dollars aren't worth much.
He actually got there through intimidation and corription, as well as getting the votes. There was a fair bit of opposition.
In 1939 the exchange rate was not 4.2 billion to the dollar. That was in 1923 during the period of hyperinflation. Under the following economic ministers, the establishment of a new curency and US loans, the German economy was doing fairly well in 1939.
More importantly though, what does that have to do with the thread? You don't have to be a mentally ill psychopath to do what Hitler did. That's the terrifying part.
best way to set up your titles would be without swearing
how was he swearing?
anyways, Germany could of one the war, one mistake thought, their new allies, Japan, attacked pearl harbor which wheeled the United States into the mix. Hitlar never wanted to mess with us, he first wanted to control all of Europe and Asia. Hitlar didn't get what he wanted to accomplish. Only if Hitlar didn't go completely insane, we could be speaking German right now.
