Fighting-Street, pro, underground, its all around us. We cant stop it, and we cant do anything about it. It happens every day, people get mad, fists start flying. Just kind of wanted to know what people think of fighting, if its right, if its wrong, and why, if people have a right to defend themselves, or not. I would really appreciate some pacifists sharing their thoughts, and what made them be a pacifist.
my opinion- I dont mind fighting, I do it if I have to, whether its peer pressure, or self defense. I think kids should have a right to defend themselves, since my school has a 0 tolerance rule. Also, I dont think your a bad person if you hurt other people. If its nessecary, of course
I am a pacifist. I just don't find any willpower to fight under any circumstances. Even when attacked I purely defend, at least, I've never felt compelled to actually hit somebody, despite being an avid martial arts practicioner. If anything it makes me even less inclined to fight because I rarely feel threatened.
I think I've always been that way, there's no rational driving force behind that so much as rationalisations I make to justify my feelings. Personally I understand that others might feel more compelled to violent actions, regardless of their reasons, but also think that it's still worth encouraging being reasonable.
The fundamental reason behind banning fighting or holding fights in purely controlled environments is to cultivate a sense of social security.
I operate on the principle of, if they start it I finish it. I see no problem with fighting, if you're not the agressor. Not all disagreements can be solved with words.
I also think culture has a lot to do with it. I visited Cambodia and Thailand a few years back, and although a high proportion of them are deadly martial artists, they were no fights at all. A much bigger sense of collective responsibility. In Britain and most of Northern Europe I've been to, you get none of that, which is sad really and probably explains why assault rates are so much higher.
One thing that i noticed in this thread was that most people believe that people shouldn't fight, but at the same time, should defend themselves if the need arises. While that is a good philosophy, you have to think about it through a more philosophic point of view.
Say that some bully is picking on you, and you choose to defend yourself. Then, say that you wipe the floor with him; you win the fight hands-down.
Now, it is very unlikely that the bully will ever forgive you for this, but is equally unlikely that he will pick a fight with you again. What will he do then? He will find an easier target.
This new target is likely to be someone smaller than you; someone that probably has next to no means of defending his/herself. So in the end, you hurt the bully, and he hurts some innocent little kid.
If you ask me, the easiest thing to do is to avoid the fight altogether, and try, at least try, to imagine the consequences before you decide to fight someone.
This new target is likely to be someone smaller than you; someone that probably has next to no means of defending his/herself. So in the end, you hurt the bully, and he hurts some innocent little kid.
Still, that would be on the him. Not on me.
If you ask me, the easiest thing to do is to avoid the fight altogether, and try, at least try, to imagine the consequences before you decide to fight someone.
This context of the bully isn't really how most fights occur, at least, not once you've left school.
The world's a bad place. Being able to look out for yourself is an invaluable skill in whatever walk of life you choose.
i think fighting is okay if its self defence like me i have never started a fight in my life and iv only gotten into one fight about 3 years ago but he did hit me first so i got him into a headlock and then he basically fell over his own feet and thats about when the teachers rushed in. so i think if somebody hits you first and starts to attack you you should be allowed to defend yourself but i find avoiding confrontation works much better than getting into a fight.
fighting is more if you need to fight not to go up to some one and just start a fight thats stupid say you get punched becuse that person doesnt like you punch him back and mae sure no ones around becuase they might thinkk you punched him and if there is who cares becuase you were use self defence but dont hurt him that much for him to sue so yea fight only if needed
I don't necessarily like fighting. I only feel comfortable sparring during Shotokan karate. it is possible to get injured, as my knee is still smarting, but nothing fatal. if attacked by only fists and other limbs, simply a jab to the solar plexis* and maybe a kick to anywhere is all I needed to do before I run away and call someone for reinforcements. Now with guns, knives, etc., that could be more of a problem, for I have not faced anyone in that situation yet. Although people have tried to strangle or assault me without any weapons multiple times so far.
* The solar plexis is basically right where the chest ends and the stomach begins. If you've ever been poked or jabbed there, you know that the breath is driven out of you and it leaves an aftershock. Very useful.
Well I'm against violence, except if it's used in self defense, which I usually do (I have no choice). I'm a pacifist by nature, when someone insults me, or gives me those slaps(joke slaps), I just ignore it and walk away. It's like Strop said:
Even when attacked I purely defend, at least, I've never felt compelled to actually hit somebody, despite being an avid martial arts practicioner. If anything it makes me even less inclined to fight because I rarely feel threatened.
Well, fighting is to say, not fun. Funny, yes, but fun no. I've been in fights with various people and I always win. I don't go looking for fights though, as somebody ALWAYS gets hurt. But, the sad truth is, fighting is inevitable. And it hurts to get socked in the face, so I'll say I'm against fighting.
