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pickleshack
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I saw this exhibit in a local museum and I think it poses some interesting questions. For those who don't know, this is process called plastination, where the bodily fluids of an already dead body are removed, and reactive resins and elastomers are vacuum pumped throughout the body, resulting in a fully preserved rigid human body ripe for examination. here is a link to see what I'm talking about [url=http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/bodies.html].

Anyway, apparently the bodies being used did not give consent. I'm not sure where they came from, but isn't this wrong? I mean it was fascinating to see, a real spectacle, but it was also creepy. Knowing that these individuals died under unknown circumstances, and their families may never know that their loved one is kicking a soccer ball , cross sectioned and dismembered for all to see. I just wanted to know what others think.

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thisisnotanalt
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This already came through my city. The ads annoyed me, because many people are too squeamish to bear looking at skinned, chloroformed corpses in ballerina poses on posters in the streets. The lack of consent is just plain wrong, and the ads are obnoxious. My mom almost puked when she saw one of them.

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I remember seeing these at some of Dr Gunther von Hagens demonstrations on channel 4 at his "Live autopsies". he invented this technique and it is excuisite sometimes. I wasn't aware that he didn;t have consent though which changes things since he really should have got it. Never the less they are amazing to look at.

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*Fixed Link*

Well, I don't think it's necessarily wrong, but it might make a few people gag. Oh, and I agree to what czecha said. They agreed to it, so I don't think it's wrong.

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the consent things an issue yeah, but even at that, they should advertise it slightly better. I've read up on it but we have nothing like that here. the closest you'd get to that here is preserved saints.

pickleshack
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Oh! They agreed? I mean the people whose bodies were used agreed? I think there are two exhibitions going on, maybe the link I used is for a group that agreed, but I swear I remember reading that there was one of these exhibitions going on where the individuals displayed did not consent. Well my apologies if i mislead anyone in reference to the question of consent.

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Were that not executed 'criminals'...

I never got to see that when it was in Denmark, which annoy me a little, but none in my family wanted to go, so yeah...

Pixie214
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Oh well if they gave consent etc. then it is ok. Dr. von Hagens is going to have it sone to himself when he dies.

Did anyone see any of von Hagens Live autopsies because they were some of the nest ocumentaries I have ever seen.

pickleshack
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@Cenere

I think that is what I read that some or many in one of the exhibitions were executed prisoners.

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Anyway, apparently the bodies being used did not give consent. I'm not sure where they came from, but isn't this wrong? I mean it was fascinating to see, a real spectacle, but it was also creepy. Knowing that these individuals died under unknown circumstances, and their families may never know that their loved one is kicking a soccer ball , cross sectioned and dismembered for all to see. I just wanted to know what others think.


uhh they definitely gave consent to it, because not doing so is illegal and this would have been shut down when it started in vermont 3 years ago... every year they get new bodies from donors. The most famous one is the "Horse and Rider" and the "skin man" both of which are beautiful works of art.
pickleshack
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Okay, Gunther von Hagen's "Body World" exhibits are definitely from consenting donors. However, "Bodies the Exhibition", does or has been said to contain non consenting individuals that were possibly executed prisoners from China. So there is a distinction here, and no it would not necessarily have been shut down right away because it is not as if it is simple to prove the origin of the bodies in the exhibition especially if the purveyors of said bodies are not immediately making public the records of consent.

DDX
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"Bodies the Exhibition"


ah mix up there, I thought you meant to say body world, I will now GTFO->

*lifts self by collar, throws self out of thread*
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I'd definitely agree that it's wrong. When I check out I want something specific done with me. Well.. the skin on my back anyway. The rest you can chuck out with the garbage.

I went to see Body Worlds a couple of years ago when it came to Vancouver & it was quite fascinating; but I do believe that an agreement to have your body used in such a fashion after you die is critically important to the exhibit and the process.

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The question has most likely been posed to the company that's doing this. If not by the government, by private investigation by people like you and me who might be suspicious about the situation.

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Oh well this is interesting, I've never heard about this museum thing there.
Probably because, looking at the website, it doesn't seem to be anywhere near me anyway...looks like a place you'd find me snooping around >_>

Well if people aren't giving consent for this stuff, then that's not cool, I disagree with that all the way because it's not their(the museum's) body and while you probably can't tell who it was there's still families and such that would be completely devastated if they ever found out their loved one wasn't buried like they wanted to be.

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