I finally beat Twisted experiment but now I am stuck on the very next stage. ie: Zone 1: Stage 7: The Warden.
My build so far: I'm Lvl 5 Psychological . All abilities to date thrown into Instinct.
- Dark Echoes: 1 (pre-req to Salvation) - Traumatize: 1 - Terrify: 1 (pre-req to free will) - Free will: 2 - Shock Therapy: 3 - High Voltage: 1 (pre-req to Electrical Storm)
My strategy so far has been to put Veradux immediately on Phalanx mode. I almost always get hit first and get brought down to 3. I then use Free Will. I then use 3 rounds of Shock Therapy. I re-apply Free will the moment it's available again.
I have got him down to about half, before he finishes me off (usually due to a crit hit).. and Veradux has no chance against him.
I don't have enough to re-spec, so I'm thinking of restarting and maxing out Free will and shock therapy.
The other problem I'm encountering is of course running out of Focus, since I don't have Electrical storm yet, and can't get it until lvl 6 (which will not happen in time for me to face The Warden on a legend run, since I can't train.
Brickwall: Could I ask your advice on how you did it? Since you mentioned in my other thread that you have completed a Psycho Legend run. I'd love your advice.
Any and all advice would be much appreciated from anyone.
I beat him 2nd try. I had maxed free will and shock therapy and put verdux on neutral and i just used free will on me then on verdux. DO NOT USE SHOCK THERAPY ALL THE TIME or you run out off focus. Start hurting him with shock therapy when he has around 500 hp. Let verdix do the damage and you will beat him.
And I have 1 point left over that I am saving , mind you I might as well just put it into High Voltage as a Pre-Req to Electric Storm, so that once I do finally beat The Warden, I'll have a better means of gaining Focus again.
I've put everything into Instict. My instict currently is at 41.
I have not spent any money yet, to save for respec if needed later. But I'm tempted to buy the EMD Blade in the store for 48 dollars. As that will give me another +5 to Instict (improving my Free will shield, and my Shock attacks.. as well as the +23 Lightning Piercing it gives. But not sure if I should save.
Right now, even with Klint26's advice above.. I free will myself and Verdux.. I just can't get him down. He kills us off slowly but surely.
Is there anything I'm overlooking? I mean isn't that many options at lvl 5. None of the other skills are worth it. I don't think it's my selection of abilities.
I know this is Heroic and supposed to be hard, since I can't train and all. But my god.
When I played him on hydro, I noticed that unless I had the speed debuff on him from hypothermia, he would quickly kill me... When he uses bound by law, it gives him the chance to go twice in a row... I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm sure psycho has some speed debuff somewhere...
That may not address the whole problem, but if nothing else, it ought to get you closer to winning...
To Heroic Betrayal: How can I heal him? Remember I'm only lvl 5. I just looked through the skills I can get, I don't see anything that would work to heal Veradux.
Volt: Ya there's one skill called Nerve Shock that reduces the enemy's Speed. Rank 1 reduces his speed by 6%, rank 2 by 10%.. etc. I can try it.. but it breaks my build plan, so I'd have to respec after. we'll see if it works.
You guys do understand and realize that were talking about: a) Heroic difficult level and.. b) that this is a legend run.. ie: No training. I am only lvl 5 and cannot train to get stronger or get more abilities.
Free will (even maxed out as it is).. does practically nothing to protect me here.
The fight almost always goes like this: - 99% of the time he attacks me first, as he's going first and I'm unprotected, I am almost insta killed in the first hit. ie: Usually brings me down to 33 health left. Veradux heals me back up usually. -Then my very first move is to Free will myself. If he attacks me again, it usually does about half my health worth in damage.
-Because of this Veradux heals me rather then attacks the warden. Even if I make so Veradux attacks, then it means I will die if the warden attacks me.
-I can't even get close to beating him. My best is that I got him down to about half his health.
- Many people have said to let Veradux kill him. Even if I have Veradux attack non stop.. he'll either die for not healing himself..
The Warden's attacks are just too powerful. It also doesn't help that most of the time, Veradux uses his weaker melee attack, rather then his ranged electric attack. Might do better if he always attacked with the range.
Anyway I have yet to find way to do this.
Would love to hear from those who claim to have done a Heroic Legend Run with the Psychological path. I need to know how you get past this fight.
Wolf: Yes I tried what you said.. I'm afraid it just doesn't help. I think my last reply above explains that.
The only thing I can maybe do, is start over again... maybe if I put all my points into Vitality instead of Instict (just to get past that fight), maybe that will help. Otherwise the advise given so far has just unfortunetly not helped me solve this fight.
I'd put 1 on Retrograde, since you cannot predict Death Sentence. More than 1 on Free Will and just 1 on Traumatize. Also, instead of going all for instinct, put some on vitality if you haven't done so. He sometimes (high speed) does look like attacking twice, so if you have very low hp, you can die easily. Best regards, and good luck!
Also, why are you restarting? Money problems? Turn autosave off, and before Warden, save. Then respec! You can retry as many as you want, but if you do care about money, don't worry, you will get enough.
Goekhan: Ok I won't be able to try this tonight. I'll try it after work tommorow.
As for why I'd start over? Well it's only a few fights to get back to this point.. and I wasn't sure how often I'd need to respec in the future. So I figure saving money as much as I can't is a good thing.
Well I did it.. The trick actually is something that I'm not even sure if this is a bug or not.. but the trick that did it for me, was 2 things:.
1) I did a respec rather then start over. But the thing I noticed when I respec was that I gained back something like 25 attribute points. Is that a bug? Because it is a LOT more attribute points then I had before I respec.. It's almost as though I got extra attribute points. As a result, I took the exact same Abilities I mentioned above.. ie: 9 points spread into:
- Terrify: 1 (pre-req to free will) - Free will: 4 - Shock Therapy: 3 - High Voltage : 1 (pre-req to Electric Storm.
But before the respec my Instict was at 34.. after it was at 55. That extra instict made a huge difference, as free will held out more and I was able to do more damage with shock Therapy.
2) 2nd Thing I did was put took off my armor for a +5 vit armor I had. That extra bit of health made a difference.
My Ability wheel was basically 3x Shock Therepy, 3x Free will (not really need 3.. but had the space, Dark Infusion, and Terrify.
First 2 rounds no matter what, I'd Free will myself and Verdoux. Then I'd use shock therapy for next 2 rounds. Next I used a Terrify (nice because it caused damage and gives me back some health.. That extra bit makes a difference if I'd survive sometimes.
And I'd refresh Free will the moment it runs out.
It still took me about 10 re-tries like this. But with a bit of luck, this worked. I'm finally past it.
