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TRUdog
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This is a whole thread discussing strategies and tactics for executing final smashes
ALSO BEING DISCUSSED ON THIS THREAD:
Who's final smash is the best and who's isn't

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Psychoace
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Top:
Sonic
Wolf
Falco
Snake

High:
Pikachu
Game & Watch
Fox
Luigi
Diddy
Wario
King Dedede
Pokémon Trainer
Samus
ROB
Yoshi
Lucas

Mid:
Zelda
Shiek
Pit
Marth
Bowser
Link
DK
Toon Link
Ganondorf
Captain Falcon
Ike
Meta Knight
Olimar
Ness

Low:
Ice Climbers
Peach
Mario
Lucario
Kirby

Bottom:
Zero Suit Samus
Jigglypuff

Both Top and High Tiers all provide invincibility and are very easy to hit with, making them almost guaranteed to help greatly.

Sonic: With the exception of possible Mario Bros. Sonic can and WILL KO players without fail on any stage. Even in tech fests like Mario Bros. or Temple, the damage caused will be significant. You are simply not going to avoid a skilled Sonic player.

Wolf/Falco: People often tell me Falco deserves a higher spot than Wolf, and for most 1v1 matches I would agree. Though Wolfâs doesnât last as long, the added horizontal movement makes it harder for his to avoid. Fewer characters will be able to avoid Wolfâs Landmaster and that is the reason for my placement.

Snake: Cannot be spot dodged, the rate of fire combined with hitbox size as well as the length the hitbox stays out makes a deadly combination. This is essentially a downgraded version of Sonic. And in case it needed to be said, a skilled player WILL hit you multiple times and probably KO you.

Pikachu: Lacks KO power (somewhat), but does incredibly damage. See Snakeâs description; apply it here with less KO power but more damage. A skilled Pikachu player will likely rack up a good 70-150 damage on most stages.

Game & Watch: This one seriously hurts on some stages, while others not so much. Hitbox is too damn big, not to mention mobile. Basically guaranteed decent damage or KO upon grabbing the smash ball. (Though not on all stages)

Fox: Downgraded version of Wolf/Falco, the vast majority of the time, youâll at least cause significant damage or KO. Possible to avoid by some characters though, especially vertical KOs.

Luigi: Somewhat luck dependant, but easy KOs are common enough to warrant this placement. This move is also exceptional as an edgeguard.

Diddy: Free damage, decent KO potential.

Wario: The bike is devastating though suicidal enough to avoid use on some stages. Another free damage while invincible Final Smash.

King Dedede: Free damage, poor KO potential except against those with poor recovery.

Pokemon Trainer: Jump before you use it (as the hitbox reaches down as well as up) and you will most likely (depending on the stage) trap your opponent inside. Also for some added insult to injury the text can block your view, making it harder to avoid in some cases.

Samus: This one really depends on the stage. Some cases harmless, other times almost guaranteed good damage or KO.

ROB: Again, stage based. Itâs very easy to avoid in large stages, but incredibly deadly once he gets a hold of you.

Yoshi: Same as Diddy but downgraded slightly.

Lucas: Somewhat luck reliant, actually reasonable to dodge on some stages. But once again, this is free chance for damage once you get the Smash ball.

Mid Tier: These I consider to be the more balanced Final Smashes, most of which I rather like

Zelda: Incredibly easy to hit with, it boils down to whether or not your opponent(s) predict when youâll use it. Good KO potential with decent damage.

Shiek: See Zelda but less KO potential in some stages.

Pit: Much like many of the high tier Final Smashes, though Pit is still vulnerable during this time, and the attacks can be shielded. Far more effective in 1v1 fights, not so much in 3-4 player matches.

Marth: Incredible KO potential, good damage as well. Fairly easy to avoid, though very effective if more players are involved.

Bowser: Highly stage dependant. Small stages will most likely result in a KO by Bowser while larger stages most characters can avoid him fairly easily. At the very least this is quite effective at causing damage with (somewhat) minimal risk in 1v1. More players will hurt this Final Smash though.

Link: Good KO potential, great damage. Excellent horizontal range, no vertical range. Basically, think Zelda but harder to KO and can only hit one opponent.

DK: Another stage dependant. See G&W, remove KO potential and mobility.

Toon Link: See Link, remove horizontal range.

Ganondorf: A good but frequently over-rated Final Smash. See this link here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iaVSD2LsXoY
Decent KO power, good hitbox, though very easily predicted, and often times with some characters; easily avoided. Itâs devastating at close range however.

Captain Falcon: Good KO potential, decent damage. Good hitbox especially if you short hop before using. Fairly easy to avoid. A pretty balanced Final Smash.

Ike: See Falcon, add damage, and remove some KO potential.

Meta Knight: See Ike, remove damage, but hits other people (for small damage and small knockback) even if theyâre fairly far away from Meta Knight.

Olimar: Basically guaranteed damage though the ending impact is quite easy to avoid on most stages.

Ness: See Lucas, though much easier to avoid, and far more punishing to those that donât.

Low and Bottom Tiers: These are flat out underpowered for being either ridiculously easy to avoid or hard to hit with, or simply not devastating at all.

Ice Climbers: Stage and match up reliant. Can deal quite a bit of damage fairly easily, but can be useless just about equal amount of the time.

Peach: Sleep doesnât last very long at all, hard to capitalize on the sleep induction. Especially in 3-4 player matches, this Final Smash can even be counter-productive as other players can also heal off the items spawned.

Mario: Easy to avoid, fairly easy to escape even. Does have some KO potential; damage is miniscule to those that escape, those that take the full damage of the attack likely die anyway so damage is fairly irrelevant.

Lucario: Reasonably avoidable with not much reward upon hitting anyway.

Kirby: Ridiculously easy to avoid, but does spawn items.

Zero Suit Samus: Low damage, small hitbox, meh knockback.

Jigglypuff: Incredibly stage reliant and very situational. By the time you actually do get a good chance to use it, your opponent(s) may have already knocked the smash ball out of you.

Pazx
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With Jiggs, make sure you are the SLIGHTEST bit in the air when you use it. Then you hit ledge hangers.

daleksparta
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Super Sonic

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MetaRidley
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Jigglypuff's Final Smash pwns completely if you do it right.
Snake's final smash could be executed by a 4-year-old and still KO someone. Best in the game.

TRUdog
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I disagree with Psychoeace almost EVERYTHING he said was wrong in my book! But of course people can have there differences:
Top:
Link
Toon Link
Bowser

High:
Game and Watch
Ganondorf
Luigi
Samus
Ike
Marth
Wario
Captain Falcon

Med:
Lucas
Ness
Zelda (Sheik)
Meta Night
Olimar
Diddy
Ice Climbers
Lucario
Pokemon Trainer
Snake
Fox
Wolf
Falco

Low:
Peach
Mario
Kirby
DK

Bottom:
Zero Suit Samus
Jigglypuff

Link: Good final smash. Unlike Ike you do not have to go straight up to the person to execute the Final smash. They either have to be next to you, left or right. But not below you or on top of you. Once you execute it it deals a great amount of damage if they are at 0% they will be almost at 100% if they don't get knocked out. But with this final smash your opponent almost always gets knocked out. You just have to worry about executing your attack.
Appearance:
http://dpad.gotfrag.com/files/upload/galleryimage_10809_f.jpg

Toon Link: (see Link)
Appearance:
http://www.forevernintendo.com/SmashBrosSeries/Wii/SuperSmashBrosBrawl/FinalSmashes/ToonLink.jpg

Bowser: Unlike Link and Ike you do not have to worry about executing your attack. You can execute it anywhere you want. If you hit someone it deals a great amount of damage to your opponent. But your Final Smash only lasts a short time so you need to make sure you get in as much hits as possible.
Appearance:
http://www.serebii.net/ssbb/characters/bowser/final.jpg

Game and Watch: Overall Mr. Game and Watch has an average final smash. You do not have to execute it at a special time and place. It is kind of hard to avoid. And deals some damage. But doesn't exactly knock you out.
Appearance:
http://www.forevernintendo.com/SmashBrosSeries/Wii/SuperSmashBrosBrawl/FinalSmashes/MrGameAndWatch.jpg

Ganondorf. Deals damage. If you execute it when everyone is in front of you thats the best time to do it. It may knock you out if you have a certain amount of damage.
Appearance:
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/thumb/d/da/DarkBeastGanon_TP.png/225px-DarkBeastGanon_TP.png

Luigi: Annoying if you are the victim. And thats what your looking for if your the one who's doing it. Easy execution. Lasts a while. Deals damage
Appearance:
http://www.smashbros.com/fr/characters/images/hidden03/hidden03_080215j-l.jpg

Samus: To get the best results. Make sure everybody is in front of you then execute it. Deals lots of damage. Doesn't last long.
Appearance:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/samus/samus_070718b-l.jpg

Ike: Not easy to execute it. Once you do deals lots of damage and lasts a while
Appearance:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/ike/ike_071112d-l.jpg

Marth: Deals great amount of damage. Easy to KO people. Fairly easy to execute. Hard to avoid
Appearance:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/hidden02/hidden02_080207s-l.jpg




Well I'm gonna stop here and continue later because I don't wanna clutter up the page.

GamesArmor
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In my opinion here are the top ten final Smashes;

Game'n'Watch

Pikachu

Sonic

Yoshi

Fox/Falco/Wolf

Metaknight

Link/Toon Link

Mario

Zelda/Sheik

Luigi



Some characters have good final smashes, but others have worse final smashes but are plain better characters.

Pazx
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You missed Sonic's FS, which is known as the best in the game for obvious reasons...

MarioMario
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i am best with mario

Voldrethar
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I cant remember all of the Final Smashes but i know the Mario, Link, Samus are 3 of the coolest.

Psychoace
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I disagree with Psychoeace almost EVERYTHING he said was wrong in my book!


What book would that be. and its Psychoace not the prior.
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