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Gematria
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So I was watching the news today and they were talking about one of saturns moons may be sustainable for some kind of life, Because they found salt water, So they think there might have been or is an ocean underneath all that Ice..

What do you guys think?

I happen to feel that there is possibly other life,
Because in this huge universe we cant be the only ones.

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thisisnotanalt
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As for other life forms, who knows what will surprise us? My point is simply that the laws of chemistry and physics are constant through the universe. This puts a limitation on what forms life can take and how life can arise.


But we can only deduce from what we know - and we don't know enough about life, the Universe, or everything to know all the parameters or conditions for life to form.
Parsat
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That's the caveat that keeps me from rejecting extraterrestrial life altogether. We always find something new. On the other hand, I don't see any evidence suggesting we should be launching SETI-like efforts to find life. From what we can deduce though, life is not something that can spontaneously form or easily be created.

Mike412
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The sabers of light and silicon monsters is more of a joke, but its possible something like that could exist, something that defies our laws of physics/chemistry. It wasn't so long ago that it was common knowledge that sun revolved around the Earth, which was based upon what we could see and understand. Those laws are laws because we don't have anything to disprove them and everything that we know does prove them, but we really shouldn't say that these laws are definite as long as our only area in which to examine them is our own planet and a small area of space around it, aside from telescopes.

tennisman24
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They have been saying this for years. They also said there is life on the dwarf planet Ceres. I hope there could be life but it is highly unlikely due to the conditions on the other planets.

thisisnotanalt
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Other than the weapons at the end there. Was that intentional?


It was a typo.

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Helix55
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[quote]actually, I'm pretty sure it's Europa, not Enceladus.[quote]

Europa is Jupiter's moon not saturn. and i dont kmow that enceladus can sustain life. the only saturn moon that can sustain life is titan (thats what i know)

Kalb789
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I don't think that life outside Earth is very probable, but I don't consider it impossible

the universe is so immense i think it would be very probable...just not very close...
dagothur1300
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Life could probably exist on otheer planets, but probably not Enceladus. Most life on Earth can't live at much colder than about -30°C but Enceladus is â'198 °C.

goumas13
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I think that it might be life outside the earth, but I don't think that we will find it so near to our planet.

LadyTurtleToes
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Thank you Gematria, for sharing your source.

As for other life forms, who knows what will surprise us? My point is simply that the laws of chemistry and physics are constant through the universe. This puts a limitation on what forms life can take and how life can arise.


I hope there could be life but it is highly unlikely due to the conditions on the other planets.


Yes very true, just hope if life is found its not some kind of alien infestation or something..


the universe is so immense i think it would be very probable...just not very close...


I have quoted all of these because they have a connection with my opinion on this subject. Water is a key element in sustaining life, so finding water on another sphere goes a long way towards proving that life on other spheres is a possiblity. While it is true that the laws of physics and chemistry remain constant through out the universe it is also true that in a galaxy (not to mention a universe) as large as the one in which we live that there are any number of elements and physical phenomenon we have yet to encounter. It is likely that any life we find close to us (I use the word close very loosely) will be microscopic since the planets close enough for us to observe seem unlikely to be able to support more complex life forms. We are only able to observe what amounts to less than a hand full of planets closely enough to make guesses about what conditions on them might be like. Technology is limited and even the best telescope can only see so far.

Here are a few links about the number of planets in our galaxy:
Our solar system
Planets in the Milky Way
The Milky Way Galaxy

And one about the number of galaxies in the universe:
Galaxies in the Universe

When you take the numbers into account the possiblity that there are other Earth-like planets is actually pretty good. I don't however think it's very likely that we will discover life on Saturn's moon Enceladus since much of the water it contains is frozen. Though the eruptions that take place there may be signs of geological activity, so who knows. (I read about it on Wikipedia, which I am not particularly fond of, but sometimes the info is good and it's usually one of the top search results.) Wow I need to shut up now!
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its not Europa, that Jupiter moon. However there is probably a better chance that theres life on Europa because its warmer than Enceladus. Also its been proven that Europa is one vast ocean and scientists never allow probs to land on it because they are worried that it will contaminate the ocean will bacteria on the probe

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Together with Mars, Callisto, and Titan, Europa is considered one of the most biologically interesting worlds in the solar system. There are two main reasons for this: 1) the possible presence of a sub-surface ocean of liquid water which could provide a medium and solvent for life (see Europa, ocean on), and 2) the possible presence of undersea volcanic vents.

On Earth, in recent years, a profusion of previously unsuspected life-forms has been found at great ocean depths, thriving, in the absence of both light and oxygen, on chemical nutrients upwelling through hydrothermal vents from the interior of the planet. Indeed, many scientists now speculate that terrestrial life may actually have evolved under such conditions (see life, origin). Europan life, too, may have arisen in this way.
http://www.daviddarling.info/images/Europa_life.jpg
A possible scenario for life on Europa

IPwnU2Day
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It's most likely microbic. Nothing to get to worked up about. Not like we can talk to it...

VoteSocialist
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Do these moons have their own magnetic field? Or does Jupiter or Saturn's magnetic fields protect these moons?

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