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even when i click the tag i either go to your frontpage, or get a 503 error... then again don't expect this for others, i'm using ps3 internet

they really should change the name of american football...

ESPN.com tends to do that a lot. I just hit the refresh button. Or just visit the web page and try to find the blog.

I don't agree with you, you can say that ragby is better than football, but not american football.

I will answer at your 1o pints:
1) You have to be a great athlet to play football. Do you think that he is bellow average:

2) Yours were protectives, but if someone fouls you at football, you may not walk again well.
3) some times all players are engeged in an attack
4) Are you joking I have played as an amateur keeper, you don't want to get hit by a ball.
5) Footballers wifes/girlfriends are... (example buffon's wife)
7) Is an instict we like using our feet.
8) You are right there is violence.
9) Only americans see american football and not all, so are way bigger the profits in football.

I have never played but in Lombardia where I grew up is a very common sport and many persons I know say that is great, so I have to trust them.

Screw it, I'll just post the blog here. Remember, I am only being harsh because YouTube soccer fans are jerks.

1. Soccer (and yes,I have played) is for the AVERAGE athlete (or below average...whatever). You don't have to be fast or big or coordinated or smart. Actually, you simply have to be alive in order to play effectively. Soccer players are usually the guys who couldn't make the cut in other sports. The fastest soccer player in the Premier League of ANY country would get toasted by the fastest man in the NFL. No contest.

2. The reason why football players wear protective gear is because they are BIGGER, STRONGER, and FASTER than Rugby and Soccer players. If you know anything about physics, you'd realize that if someone like Ray Lewis hit anyone in Rugby or Soccer at full speed without protective gear, he'd most likely KILL them. The protective gear in the NFL is necessary to protect life, not because of weakness. Soccer players cry when they trip over another player.

3. The co-ordination and endurance in Football players is light years beyond the co-ordination in soccer players. Soccer is stop and go, and to say that it requires superior endurance is akin to using stupidity as a defense. Anyone who knows Soccer knows that the 11 players are divided into strikers/forwards, mid-fielders, and defenders. All units are never engaged in the play at the same time at any point. When the forwards attack the opposing goal, mid-fielders provide support, and defenders are further back RESTING. Vice versa when the defenders are defending, the forwards are RESTING upfield waiting for the ball to be cleared to them. Mid-fielders do the most work (which isn't much anyway). Football requires EVERYONE to co-ordinate an attack that capitalizes on one units strengths to expose and take advantage of the other unit's weaknesses in order to beat the opposition, much like a battlefield.

4. Soccer goalies have it easy. Because of it's design and weight, a soccer ball traveling (and let's use that ABSURD 98 mph reference) at 98mph wouldn't have the ability to do much more than SEVERELY STING if it makes contact with someone's head. A basketball traveling at that same rate would cause a severe concussion under the same circumstances. If you can't figure the results of a puck, baseball, or football under the same circumstances, you're just stupid. I'd rather have Roberto Carlos fire a penalty kick at my head than have Randy Johnson fire a fastball at my head ANY DAY!!!

5. All pro sports have groupies....female fans etc. The ones linked to soccer just happen to be ugly. Example? Chris Webber of the NBA dates Tyra Banks, Sergei Federov of the NHL was once married to Anna Kournikova, Derek Jeter of MLB once dated Mariah Carey.........David Beckham? He married one of the freakin' Spice Girls. What's scarier is that British people think that she's attractive. Go figure.

6. I love the inference that pro football players (or any American pro athlete for that matter) is illiterate, uneducated, and involved in drug abuse. I have 2 words for all of you: Diego Marradona, who, coincidentally, had to CHEAT in order to win the World Cup.

7. Soccer is the "Most popular sport(?) in the world simply because it's the LEAST expensive to play. All one has to do is look at the economic status of most countries worldwide to understand that. Hell, if you have 5 rocks or 5 cans(4 to make each goal and one to kick) then you've got a game! Soccer isn't popular because it gained acceptance, Soccer is popular because most countries, underdeveloped or otherwise, HAD NO CHOICE but to accept it. Just to prove how ridiculous that argument is, people were running competitively long before soccer originated, so why isn't marathon running or sprinting (individual or relay) the most popular sports in the world?

8. The violent influences of soccer: Saddam Hussein torturing the Iraqi World Cup team after their loss to the U.S., fans killing fans in England and Ireland during and after games, fans killing referees after their team loses.....and you say football is violent?

9. To all of you IDIOTS who talk about the commercial aspect of American football, you must be too damn drunk and high to have noticed the sideline banners and the players jersey's during a premiership game. (Yes, people actually argue this on YouTube. If it is only aired in America, then how would they know about this?)

10. I'm gonna finish this off by defending basketball. A basketball is bigger than a soccer ball, yet the net/goal is smaller(18 inches in diameter). A soccer goal is 8 feet tall and eight yards wide. Now, somebody explain to me how a Pro basketball player can shoot a basketball from up to 25 feet out through an 18 inch-wide hole, yet the best of soccer players have trouble consistently kicking a ball into a 192 square foot net? 192 SQUARE FEET!!!!!!! Who's un-coordinated?????

When soccer fans can find me a soccer player faster than Terrell Owens, stronger than Ray Lewis, bigger than Michael Strahan, with more coordination than Marshall Faulk and more heart than Brett Favre, then you can compare the sport and the athletes to the NFL.

I prefer American Football. People in the NFL probably take steroids, but they are incredibly tough, and American Football is probably one of the sports that you're most likely to break a bone. It is more challenging than soccer, and the players work hard to win games.

People in the NFL probably take steroids

Seeing as I don't take steroids while playing football.... I don't even know who that is in that pic, looka t Barry Bonds for steroids.

That is Barry Bonds. Anyway, how do have to be more coordinated to play American Football than Football. You have to catch a ball and not fall down. In football it is hard to posess the ball for a long time, so you have to pass a lot. Plus in American Football you get breaks in between plays, and in Football you have no breaks except for halftime.

Barry Bonds is definitely on Steroids. But the people in Football aren't. They don't really need to be.

I am actually afraid to look at the replies for fear of getting my ass chewed out.

Barry Bonds is definitely on Steroids

1. No even average footballers are very fit. As for running Walcott is very fast and Nedum Onuha could have been in the GBR Olympic team for 100m.

2. American Football hits are harder however there are fewer of them in an avergae game than rugby so it a decision between lots of really big hits or less huge hits. I watched some "Ray Lewis" videos on youtube and I'm still impressed more by Chabal. As for the pads and bigger tackles it is a bit chicken and the egg, do they tackle big like that because they have the protection. I think it is dumb to compare American football and football tackles, it is like saying the backstroke is rubbish compared to the Vendee Globe race.

3. You have never seen total football then. Made famous by the Dutch it incorporates every player playing every position on the pitch. "All units are never engaged in the play at the same time at any point. When the forwards attack the opposing goal, mid-fielders provide support, and defenders are further back RESTING. Vice versa when the defenders are defending, the forwards are RESTING upfield waiting for the ball to be cleared to them." Sorry but that is not a good argument either. In american football there are two teams for offense and defense. When you have the ball in scrimmage you have 11 players o the pitch and 11 off the pitch "RESTING" as you put it. Watch this and say football doesn't have everyone taking part in a piece of play. (you have no idea how much it pains me to use Argentina as an example of good football) lol

4. Again with the strange comparisons, of course a baseball will hurt more than a football they are completely different. But if you can bring baseball into a thread about American football vs. football then I can have cricket. The fielders don't use gloves.

5. "What's scarier is that British people think that she's attractive." offended much (?) Anyway ridiculous reductionism then. She is one person and as goumas showed others have fitter WAGS.

6. Diego Maradona is not a footballer he is a **** and I refuse to acknoledge hom in a serious argument for or against football. lol Stereotypes aren't good but generally I would say ther are more 'roids in American football than normal football.

7. It is the most popular sport fact. Almost every country barring US plays for many reasons though cost is a large one for many. Plus it is a great dream to aspire too.

8. Hooliganism has had it's hayday in England I think, it is nothing like it used to be. The Ultras from Roma are a different story they are psychos. But as Bill Shankley said "Football isn;t a matter of life and death it's more important than that"

9. The more advertising it is the less fans have to pay. I would prefer all the hoardings etc. and pay less than nice clean kits and for the prices to be even mroe than they are now. Unfortuneatly the money must come from somewhere. But this isn;t exactly specific to football.

10. Well as this shows they are idiots half the time (though only some). but again a strange comparison. Anyway 25 feet out is nothing in football. The Goalies do a great job too example 1 and example 2

When soccer fans can find me a soccer player faster than Terrell Owens, stronger than Ray Lewis, bigger than Michael Strahan, with more coordination than Marshall Faulk and more heart than Brett Favre, then you can compare the sport and the athletes to the NFL.

The save of Coupet you showed is awesome.

I could probably find people faster than Owens, sronger than Lewis but one person with it all?

I prefer soccer. Odd for an american, huh? It requires much more skill than it looks. And believe me, a soccer ball traveling at 50mph into your gut puts you out of commission FAST. I find football too competitive and to hard to sit down and watch. It's too complicated and to be honest, boring. Why do you really need 40 people on a field to play a game? You don't. While soccer, you can take one team, split them in two, and play a full game. Minus one or two people. Not to mention the shear ease of practicing. Kick a ball into a wall and see if you can hit it with your head. Simple. I've played two seasons of football and eight seasons of soccer and I find soccer far more challenging and dangerous. I saw one of my friends who was playing goalie at a game crack his head open on the pole when somebody accidentally rammed him. While I've only ever seen one truly bad injury while watching or playing football.