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ReadMatthew24
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Anyone ready for the return of the Nephilim?

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donpiet
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but also religion them selfs deny him being the son of God


i never disagreed on that.
but as no religion in this world provides scientifical proof about its teachings it does not make jesus less/more likely to be gods son if they deny or accept him.

it simply depends from your beliefs whether you want to accept it or not
Veobahamut
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yes it is. him being the son of god is not a proven fact in terms of scientifical proof
No there is no evidence to prove a man called Jesus(the one refered to in the bible) existed nor is their evidence that proves he is the son of a god.
DirtyCodingHabitz
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it simply depends from your beliefs whether you want to accept it or not


yea I agree with you on that
donpiet
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No there is no evidence to prove a man called Jesus(the one refered to in the bible) existed nor is their evidence that proves he is the son of a god.


if you ask wikipedia, you will find out, that there is no historician dealing with these times who would deny the existence of a person jesus from nazareth who wnadered around and taught people about his teachings.
Andrieux
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To OP: most people here are atheists


Very untrue. Most people believe in some type of deity.
donpiet
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Very untrue. Most people believe in some type of deity.

maybe we should start a survey to prove that.
i am really curious about the results
ReadMatthew24
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Gentlemen, Gentlemen,

I do not want to intrude on your off topic discussion of whether Jesus Christ really existed, but I am sorry and insist that I must. Please understand it is never my desire or intent to seem rude. I only desire for this thread to stay on topic of Genesis 6:4 and the Nephilim due to the uniqueness of the subject.

I would imagine there are now or at least were other threads where the debate over the existence of Jesus Christ on earth can be resumed.

Again, please know I have no inclination to sound harsh regarding your discussion as I myself know it is a noble one. However, before I leave for my trip I am going to attempt to make one truly thorough post either today or the next to pique the interest of those of you who are on the fringe, not sure what to believe and those of you who already do believe but need more evidence.

In that post I hope to succeed in helping those who are having their eyes opened to this completely new realm of possibilities of the Nephilim and the *Alien Gospel*, that I pray will lead those in the right direction who are seeking the Truth with fervor.

In doing so, it is my ambition that those of you who want to know more about this fascinating topic will be even hungrier to delve into an area that most of the world's populace is not even aware of. Even more, you are unequivocally in a select group who are willing to go diving into a particular issue that most will not even come close to broachingâ¦for obvious reasons.

I do not have much time because as I have said, as of Tuesday, I will not have any access to a PC as my family and I will be on a two week vacation. During that span after I have made my post, I am going to trust you good noblemen and women to keep this thread on the topic at hand.

Trust me, I know it is really easy to go off on rabbit trails but I urge you to restrain yourselves and use a different thread to discuss and debate off topic issues that may naturally arise. In my absence, it is my sincere hope that my posting will help fuel the fire of this discussion in a manner that each of you who are truly interested in this particular subject, will dig deeper on your own as you seek the Truth. Remember, in this thread I have already given several places, and names for a good starting point.

I thank you in advance for your understanding and your patience.

May Blessings and Peace be with you all.

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My good friends and acquaintances,

I do greatly apologize for not following through on posting what I had desired which was to give more evidence on the subject of Genesis 6:4 which would be the Nephilim. To be honest, the passage should be Genesis 6:1-4. There are others that I shall introduce as time allows.

Truth be told, the mouse on my PC stopped working the same day I was preparing to make my post. I only had a slight window of opportunity to write what I needed before we left for vacation and that window closed due to the malfunction.

I can say I fully intend to bring to you thought provoking passages and evidence that for those who are willing to take an intellectually honest look at this subject, will have a paradigm shift in their world view of things.

Please stay tuned.

Blessings to all.

RM24

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Jesus WAS PROVEN to be a real person.


Who doesn't believe that Jesus was real person. He was a historical figure that gave rise to the most popular religion in the world.
The part we atheists don't buy is the whole thing that Jesus was the reincarnate of god. Far to many cults have sprung up from that....
ReadMatthew24
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My good Squire Eagle, it is my pleasure to make your acquaintance. At the risk of being redundant, I know there is the possibility that you did not see my previous post about making *off topic* posts. I do not desire to sound rude, but I am asking all who post on this thread to stay on topic of Genesis 6:4 and the subject of the Nephilim. I am sure that there are other threads that debate the worthy topic of Jesus being a real person or not. I only ask that if you desire to speak on that topic to discuss it on a thread in which that was the purpose of creating. I thank you in advance for your understanding.

May you find many blessings in your life this day.

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I want to give a preview of what I want to discuss in more detail regarding why I believe the subject of the Nephilim has such a sense of urgency for me personally.

I believe we are not just in the *Last Days* but indeed, we are witnessing the *End Times*. This is no typical knee jerk reaction. I have personally been studying and researching the UFO, Alien Abduction, Fallen Angel, Nephilim concept and slowly putting the pieces together for years. I believe upcoming discussions only validates what many who are seeking to stay True to the Bible will encounter even in the face of what seems absolute Truth.

I will say the more we delve into Transhumansim, Transgenics, and the never ending search to find extraterrestrial life, the more the world becomes desensitized to the absolute Truths of the Bible, and instead closes the door of their heart to those Truths and opens them to what are perceived to be *New truths*. Just as the world once thought the world was flat, and that was *truth*, so today we Christians believe God created all life, therefore true *alien life* cannot exist. But alas, we have all these encounters and experiences with these *UFOs* and *Aliens* that we must reconcile. How do we do that as Christians? Do we compromise our beliefs so we will not be ostracized from the world? Do we hold fast even in the face of what the world believes is *true*, yet real Christians understand it is what the Bible calls *The Great Deception* and the *Falling Away*? After all, doesn't Wicca (one of the most in vogue religions in the world) teach that there are *many paths to God?* Isnât the hyper belief in your own *Personal angel* or *Spirit Guide* more popular than ever? Yet Jesus couldn't be clearer in His statement in John 14:6, *I am the way, the Truth and the life. No man can come to the Father except through Me.* That one statement made by Jesus Christ is what causes the world to call Christians intolerant and narrow minded. And they are right. Why? Because we believe what Jesus said in John 14:6. Remember, we did not say that, Jesus Christ Himself said it. We believe it. The path to Heaven is indeed narrow. The coming deception however will teach a far different message.

Yes, the world may find there is *Alien life*, but it isnât what they think. True Bible believing Christians know the difference. We know it to be the next in line of the original *Great Lie* which came from Satan, the master counterfeiter. He will tell the lie that life on earth, especially human life was the example of the ultimate *Alien progenitor* of life as we know it. For those of you who went to see it, you may remember that is the basic message of the last Indiana Jones movie. The earth will fall for The Lieâ¦that *Aliens* are in fact our progenitors, our creators.

What we will talk about in this thread is what I believe epitomizes much of what is happening in our world today i.e. Christianity is about to have the doors of our beliefs blown off by the new *truths* being discovered, uncovered and disclosed in what many have been waiting for, which is *The Age of Aquarius*

This is where the *Aliens* and what we will soon see also translate into *Nephilim* take center stage in what I believe to be the not so distant future. The question I have for those of us who are Born Again Christians is this, what will we do if we are still here when the Nephilim appear and all the great religions and the faiths of the world are shattered because of their abilities to cause *great signs and wonders* and in doing so *will deceive many*?

Remember: The world doesn't need "Religion". The world needs a personal relationship with the Risen Lord, Jesus Christ.

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Where in the bible does it talk of the return of the nephilim? The Nephilim were the children of fallen angels and the daughters of men it says in Genesis 6:4. It says that they were there before the flood and after it, but it was all past tense, "For they WERE the mighty men of old" they are who the mythology of the greeks were formed from. The Nephilim are not coming back again in Jude we read that the angels that defiled themselves in this way are already in hell. I agree with you other than that Matthew, and also on the subject of aliens, aliens are not our creators or any such thing, and God did create all life. There is a possibility that He created aliens, though unlikely that He said nothing of it in His word. Unless I missed some part that He said we are the only life in the universe. He could have easily created them to be a physical cause of the tribulation.

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My Good Squire Noj, you ask honest and noble questions of which I shall try my best to answer.

Let is begin with your first question.

Where in the bible does it talk of the return of the nephilim?


This is why I ask people to read Matthew 24. In verses 37-39, Jesus says, "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

We see from this passage that what will be happening on the earth at the return of Christ is the same things that were happening in the days of Noah at the time of the flood. Remember again what it says in Genesis 6:1-4, "When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, "My spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal, his days will be a hundred and twenty years. The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward , when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were heroes of old, men of renown."

So again you see that it clearly states that after the flood the Nephilim were still on the earth. This passage indicates that some angels sired children with human women. In doing so these angels sinned and became fallen angels. These offspring were hybrids called Nephilim, who were very large giants, probably over 30 feet tall.

As for the Nephilim hybrids, whose fathers were immortal angels, and whose mothers were mortal human women: when the Nephilim died their spirits were still immortal and active, but their bodies were dead like a pure human's would be. They became disembodied spirits. Like their fathers, they were bent towards evil in life, and also in death. These are "evil spirits" or "demons". The fallen angels who were their fathers were (before they became fallen) a type of angel originally known as a "watcher", or perhaps "guardian angels". This is a topic all unto itself which we can also get into as it pertains to this subject as well.

I know that is much to swallow all at once. Regarding your comments about Jude, remember that Jude directly quoted from Enoch in Jude verses 14-15. It is a direct quote from 1 Enoch 1:9. I do not believe the book of Enoch to be "Inspired". However, that doesn't mean it is not reliable. It we took that standard on everything that was not quoted in the Bible, the works of people like the great historian Josephus would not have any merit to them. We must be intellectually honest in how we apply our standards of judgement to what it "Inspired" and what is not, but yet is still good for historical accuracy. We at least have the benefit of the doubt in my opinion from Enoch because he was quoted by the inspired book of Jude.

That is a lot to chew on and I will leave it at that for now. I do greatly appreciate your intelligence Noj and your heart for God. The very act of people coming to this thread and reading it means that God is planting seeds of hope in their hearts.

Many blessing to you for your comments. They are well thought out and I would love to keep the dialogue going. We have not even scratched the surface yet my friend.

May God go with you.
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Hey I noticed something. In Greek mythology when a god makes love to mortal women, the child is pretty much a super-human like Heracles. This is kinda the same thing but with these "fallen angels" and the offspring are demons.

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My Good Squire Eagle you have just hit the nail on the head.

Keep thinking and keep serching.

Blessings to you this day Good Squire.

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