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Graham
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Say you are the smartest person ever. You know of how tiny possibility of finding life in space; nature would eventually win or die vs human input (tampering with natural selection); how many in the world are starving; how little we still actually know about everything. Would the value of bettering your species be worth the stress of knowledge?

you can be dumb and happy, but can you be smart and really happy?

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Graham
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but how would you find you are the smarter? one experience of misunderstanding can't automatically mean the other is inferior

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As equal to you or inferior?


And why do you need to view people like that?

one experience of misunderstanding can't automatically mean the other is inferior


I agree.


Which is why I generally stick to attempting to make friends with smart people, but it's a little hard to do that in society today.
But what do I know? I'm only 14, right?


Well said.
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I don't, but if someone calls me a nerd -geek-, I might not believe in it but I still feel offended.
I'm might not care, but it doesn't mean it won't offend me, it will. And it does offend.


sure it does offend.
and my point meant, that if someone claims something you do not have to believe it because you know the truth. like when a politician lies about anything.

and the lonlieness part is probably a lot of an age thing.
while in school, mostly the athletic and rebelious kids are popular, in college and in the life beyond that, intelligence and smarts is valued high.
of course only as long you are able to act according to the society you are in
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And why do you need to view people like that?


Most people in the world, I am not talking about you guys necessarily, view most people as equal...(Hopefully). But with all that knowledge in your head, you could either think others were better than you, that everyone was equal to you because all human beings are equal, or that you were better because you were smarter.
Graham
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if someone claims something you do not have to believe it because you know the truth.


would you know the truth or believe you know the truth

if you are surrounded by people egging you on to believe wouldn't you feel lonely? simplistic minds are often stereotyped to the things they disagree with, so don't expect too many friends.

while in school, mostly the athletic and rebelious kids are popular, in college and in the life beyond that, intelligence and smarts is valued high.


sure they are but the question is:

are you happy?
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mostly the athletic and rebelious kids are popular,


A annoying cliche... Fortunately in my school, there's no such thing as poplar kids. Everyone's the same and treated as equal.

and the lonlieness part is probably a lot of an age thing


Probably? It is. And it sucks.


Most people in the world,


Too many...



But with all that knowledge in your head, you could either think others were better than you, that everyone was equal to you because all human beings are equal, or that you were better because you were smarter.


Which happens a lot. And it's so annoying how people think they're better then others just because they're smarter.

There's nothing to accomplish with it, and even if it was, it wouldn't be miraculous.
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if you are surrounded by people egging you on to believe wouldn't you feel lonely? simplistic minds are often stereotyped to the things they disagree with, so don't expect too many friends.


well dont hang out with simplistic people. there are enough people out there who do not judge you by your beliefs or political views.

sure they are but the question is:

are you happy?

in high school you might get a hard time, but you know that you stick to something you love and like. otherwise you would simply stop learning and pretend to be dumb.

as in college you can develop your knowledge freely and be popular.
at my university the smart guys are also the ones with most friends.
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well dont hang out with simplistic people.


how would you know they are simplistic if you don't hang out with them? and they're already everywhere, this wouldn't be a very good solution

what happens after the university?
donpiet
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what happens after the university?


you work in a job, where you probably are surrounded by people with an equal education than you had and are therefore similary smart.


how would you know they are simplistic if you don't hang out with them?


well i think you can see pretty quick whether you like someone or not. and you realise if a person has some smarts pretty quickly
Graham
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you work in a job, where you probably are surrounded by people with an equal education than you had and are therefore similary smart.


a few smart people conversing does not always = happy. there can be envy, debates, frustration, ignorance, etc.

well i think you can see pretty quick whether you like someone or not. and you realise if a person has some smarts pretty quickly


prejudicial(?) skills are but one aspect in smartiness. some may have not developed theirs to that extent yet
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I dont think it has to result in sadness. The smartest person would see all the bad but they could also see all the good and be inspired. Hope is important without it we would never try anything new. They would also not have to get to logical about emotions and just let themelves feel. If they could do things like that then they could be as happy as anyone else

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You can't, intelligence is a natural repellent of friendship, so, if you're smart, you'll die alone and end up creating an account at certain sites and find your own corner in a middle of threads (forum) and virtual friends.


this is epic!

You can be whatever you want, remember old saying "If there is a will, there is a way"

talk about super smart guys

wikipedia.org search for young prodigy, some of them can speak 200 languages and have IQ 300 (I think the IQ machine can't read his head lol)


Well, life goes on, at some point I'm thinking &quoteople doesn't know if they are stupid", it includes me, you and everyone. for example: I have a real life experience, I was ordering a fried rice in a small resto, then the chef angry to me because I misspelled the word "zaofan" mean fried rice, and "zaofen" means fried noodle. Actually I don't misspelled it, she just hear not clear what I said.

Well, at first I was angry in my heart. But If I continue to fight her and bla bla bla I will not smarter than her, it will be useless. Now, that chef is 'smart' at cooking, but not smart enough in making relation with customer.

My point is you can be smart at any field, everyday, rather than make people angry and make them hate you in their heart by saying "stupid" or something like that.

another real-life experience, some of my friend who is a little bit smarter than me, like to say "stupid" to me, I don't like it, but it could be my fault that i never tell him directly, but I tell him undirectly. Did he realize by saying stupid to others really reduce his chance to get more friends? Did he smart enough not hurt other people feeling? At the end of semester I have so many friends from Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Switzerland, Englishman, and Chinese (I study Chinese in GuangXiHuaQiaoXueXiao) he ask me "why you have so many friend?

He ask me that question because he thinks my Chinese language is not good enough to make friend, so he thinks I'm weird or somethin? No, in making friend not only langueage you need, I teach Chinese people English and hang out with them, brain is not everything, I sometime treat them tea vice versa, that's life, you don't want to spend your whole life with book right? You can't make friend just by reading book and staying in your dorm 24 hours/day.

About happiness.

Well this stuff is depend on the person, if you are sanguine, choleric, phlegmatic, or melancholic.

Money VS Happiness, you can be

1. rich and happy.
2. rich and not happy.
3. poor and happy.
4. poor and not happy.

Money is not always make you happy, but it's better if you have money and hang out with your friend, you can share your feeling, problems, and vice versa. So, you can be anybody, but always try to be happy, search things that makes you happy and fight for it, it's worth trying.
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a few smart people conversing does not always = happy. there can be envy, debates, frustration, ignorance, etc.


that happens between dumb people as well.


prejudicial(?) skills are but one aspect in smartiness. some may have not developed theirs to that extent yet


why is sympathy prejudical?
well in a way it is, but you cannot be forced to like someone.

and i never talked about skill, i mean you are not looking for an equal debating opponent but a friend. and either you like someone or not
Graham
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that happens between dumb people as well.


i implied what you said as "if you are around smart people you will agree and become friends"

why is sympathy prejudical?


because in order for you to like someone must approve or agree with their actions. to extremely analyse their actions would be good prejudicial skills
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Here's my take. I have a pretty good IQ, which has fluctuated here and there. About 140+, making me quite intelligent.

I am not happy, but I sure am not sad. I am quite sociable, although I am a relative social misfit, often confusing the less intelligent with so called 'big words'.

I'll tell you what it does equal 50+% of the time.

Narcissism and egocentric-ness. Because one is so intelligent, they often outrank their peers leading to the feeling of intellectual superiority, especially at a young age leading into adolescence, when these types of feelings become stronger.

My take on topic?

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