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Graham
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An age old debate with brother... Is time man-made or has it always been there?

You could say "time has always been there, in the form of new stars and revolutions" or "time is man-made, humans came up with the way to tell time in the form of revolutions!"

So is time really just a measuring stick?

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CosmicCharlie
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The definition of time, the existence of the concept time, has only existed as long as the conscious mind.

Just because we give something a name doesn't mean it didn't exist before that.
dacer
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Just because we give something a name doesn't mean it didn't exist before that.


if there is no conscious mind in the universe, nothing exists. period.
Cenere
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Just because we give something a name doesn't mean it didn't exist before that.

Reading the whole thing, not so much?
The concept, the name, not the existence. But as you define it, it get lined up. What would you say time was, if you did not have the concept of it? If you are not there to witness time, how do you know it is actually there?
Was it time before we decided it was? You cannot say time has always been, just as you cannot say the universe always has been, because you need the concept to say it exists.

Say...
You see a dog. If you never saw a dog, how would you know it exists?
There have been conclusions made this way (All the swans I have seen has been white, all swans are white), and considering that nothing is an absolute fact, as well as everything being subjective and under a constant change from who it is a subject to, then, would you say it was time before human decided it was time?
dacer
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yea, as i said, unless religions are true, there is no proof time was even a thought before humans exsited, unless there is another race of being in the universe that actually think the same way as we do.

if there is not a single being in the universe that has consciousness, there is nothing, nothing would truely "exsist"

fluffybunny422
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*faints* I hate these kinds of threads, they make my head go *head blows up*

dacer
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simple concepts are so fun to talk about though

maybe we should talk about somthing complicated, that actually requires more then a theorectical thought.

THEN your head would explode.

fluffybunny422
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everything makes my head explo- *second head explodes*

Mirage1
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Simple, its always been here.

Green12324
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An age old debate with brother... Is time man-made or has it always been there?


I actually thought about last night, and my conclusion is that time has always been there.

Really, it's something that annoys me about humans, that we would actually have to think seriously about whether or not there was time before we existed. What about the things that were proven to have come before us? They were moving through time, just as much as we do today.

The units of time, we created. Hour, day, year, etc.
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I think the passing of time has always occured but the concept of time was made by man. But things in nature can "tell the time" (sort of) cicadas only emerge fromt he ground at very specific times so they must have a way of knowing what time it is (even if it isn't brilliantly Swiss watch-like accuracy)

jt111444
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Time has always been there but humans came up wit a way to see time


I agree with you Jacques timae has always been there.
surfthenet
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hmm........ talking about time

try watching "Einstein- the great relativity show" on youtube, it's make me understand a little bit about time.

Tempus fugit - time flies.

If you have a lover and both of you love each other so much, time feels faster, "oh it's already 5 hours talking, I can't feel it"

If you watch a clock and count the second and you feel so bored that you wanna die quick, time feels so slow.

But actually we have the same 24 hours a day right? where ever you life on earth????

Green12324
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If you have a lover and both of you love each other so much, time feels faster, "oh it's already 5 hours talking, I can't feel it"

If you watch a clock and count the second and you feel so bored that you wanna die quick, time feels so slow.


That doesn't change how time moves for everyone else. It just feels slower for you, because you're expecting it to move faster or slower.

But actually we have the same 24 hours a day right? where ever you life on earth????


More like 23 hours 59 minutes xD
surfthenet
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More like 23 hours 59 minutes xD


hmm, in the "Einstein relativity show" there is a real case study, say there is a twin, one of them stay on the airport, the other one circle the earth 100 times, when they met, the girl who travels the earth looks older and the time in their watches pointing at a different time (they were matching the time on their watches before)

An old story about time

There was a god with wings that can fly so fast, he has a weapon, a bow. He travels the earth and ask a wise guy. What is a time? and the wise guy say, "If you ask me, I would say I don't what time is, but if you don't ask, I would say I know what time is", the god angry and become more confuse, then he take his bow and point it to the moon, because he hoped that without the moon, there can only be daylight without no night. After the moon gone, he surprised that night still exists.

Then he ask the wise guy again, "you can't handle the truth", wise guy said. "What truth?", "There is always something you can't understand, but you know it exists, you just don't want to admit it".
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time always existed

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