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Jessikar
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Title does not say it all, so I will explain.
Alright, I'm pretty sure we've all seen, at some point, a video, music, or something, regarding war or some sort of mature topic. And of course, a lot of them are cliche and cheesy. Here's my question.
Are they offensive? I mean, I've never personally encountered anything like that, but for the people who have, could it be offensive that a movie or music video or something takes something so serious and utterly fails to grasp the full scope of it, and encourages people to believe in the fantasy of it, instead of the real thing? I'm not complaining, but I'd just like some conversation here.

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Veobahamut
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Eyes of the insane by slayer This is an anti war song by slayer, It seems contraversal but I think it has a serious message.

Jessikar
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Mind sharing the rest of your views, Veo? I mean, do you personally have anything to say other than posting a link to a song? And did you read the OP and understand it?(I think you may have gotten a wrong message)

Veobahamut
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Sometimes it takes a distored view of the message to let people know about e.g. sometimes politics and the ideas around work seem boring but if you can show them in a medium people can understand then it helps get people interested.

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Are they offensive? I mean, I've never personally encountered anything like that, but for the people who have, could it be offensive that a movie or music video or something takes something so serious and utterly fails to grasp the full scope of it, and encourages people to believe in the fantasy of it, instead of the real thing? I'm not complaining, but I'd just like some conversation here.


One of the biggest problems veterans returning from war theatres is that the ordinary citizenry have absolutely no idea what they went through. Siegfried Sassoon once wrote that he wanted to spend his R&R period driving up and down Oxford Street in a tank, firing a machine gun through all the shop windows, so people could undertsand how he had to live day in day out. I think the problem with these films is that they portray soldiers lives innacurately and make war look rather fun. I do not think the content itslef is offensive however, especially when you consider its target audience ie., testosterone fuelled adolescents, it just doesn't exactly help the situation.
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I'm almost certain a few video games and movies have been sponsored by the Military to encourage people to enlist. And I have to admit that those movies and games do look fun and appealing, but realistically how could killing another human and living in fear with others around you dying be fun?

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I'm almost certain a few video games and movies have been sponsored by the Military to encourage people to enlist. And I have to admit that those movies and games do look fun and appealing, but realistically how could killing another human and living in fear with others around you dying be fun?


Indeed, although, most of the soldiers who I have met have real problems adjusting to life back home because they find it mind numbingly boring. It's not something I fully understand, but I can appreciate that living off adrenaline and then returning to a sleepy British village somehwere may be a hard adjustment for some.
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i do not think, that showing war in the way movies do it is offensive.
a movie is just a interpretation of some events real or fictional by the director. whether or not they reflect the truth is the decision of the director.
an action movie, will never show events realisticly because it would be boring. a movie made by an antiwar activist, will make mindless beasts out of every soldier, which isnt true either.
there is barely a movie, except for documentaries, which can show the complete truth on a topic.
you should always think about a movie you saw and reflect, what was the purpose it was made and what messege will the director send with this movie.

according to games, they are sure fun and will not show true events. they mostly only show the actual battle part, and not what happens afer the fight.
but people who enlist, after playing some shooter games, have simply no imagination, education and never had a real plan for their lives, if they decide their career on the basis of games. so they deserve not better and it is their own fault

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Urm . . . .

You seem to think the offensiveness of something is constant to everyone, at least by the wording of your OP.

EVERYTHING is offensive to someone, and we shouldn't let people be constrained by the opinions of the people who disagree with them.

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EVERYTHING is offensive to someone, and we shouldn't let people be constrained by the opinions of the people who disagree with them.


Agreed 100%. No matter how many conservative people say 'This is bad for our childrenz!' still probably let their 'childrenz' watch WWII movies (and others not to be mentioned).
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Can I ask why exactly you threw that in? -.-

Of course they're offensive. My shirt is offensive. My armatar is offensive. My house is offensive. My ideologies are offensive.

Everything in this world is offensive.
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Agre

ed 100%. No matter how many conservative people say 'This is bad for our childrenz!' still probably let their 'childrenz' watch WWII movies (and others not to be mentioned).

I don't think you quite understood Jessica's meaning. I think this thread might be aimed at being offensive for the veterans, seeing movies like Tropic Thunder or Delta Farce, you know, spoofing something that was pure hell to the soldiers.
Now...that said, everything is offensive to someone somewhere. We can't ban something just because someone is offended by it! Plus, war games are huge part of the entertainment industry! What would happen to that market if those types of movies and games were banned? Nothing good, I can tell you that!
THAT said...I do think that those types of movies and games project a rather bad image, that war is fun(which is a total misdirect). Believe me, I for one wouldn't think shooting a person is fun, much less twenty people(not that I've done it before).
Graham
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No matter how many conservative people say 'This is bad for our childrenz!'


stereotype much? wouldn't the liberals be more controlling anyway?

video games & movies & songs can help you learn vague things like history, guns, etc.

i don't wanna repeat "everything is offensive to someone" but it's true
FireflyIV
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stereotype much? wouldn't the liberals be more controlling anyway?


Since liberalism is about freedom and choice, errm, no.
Graham
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Since liberalism is about freedom and choice, errm, no.

i lold


oh right, i forgotted :P

was thinking it related to socialism but i remembered that 4square test , evry1 makes mistakes
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