of course we decode our faith, im not saying that we dont.
i must ask if you all see astrology as no more than a means of divination, which is fairly innaccurate. any readings of the so called "future", especially in tarot or astrology, only give you a clue as to where you may be going based upon your current standing with yourself and the world around you. its more a tool for meditation than it is a means for direct knowledge. this is a widely misunderstood fact about these things.
and perhaps "accidental" by the means of the concious mind, but not accidental when you consider the operation of the entire self, of which the concious mind makes up a very small percentage of.
and im not a "ageist", i just know where my mind was when i was, say 15, or maybe 17,(which honestly, this reminds me of, i made similar arguements when i was both your age) and i know the difference between there and now, you, however do not.
and if you now claim that freudian slips are an invalid arguement, why did you use it in an arguement?
and i am not the ignorant in this conversation, for as far as i can tell, i am the only one to have done any research on the subject at hand (seeing as how im the only one actually talking about astrology, where as everyone else says "i dont believe in it" or attacks it with other schools of thought, while never actually talking about astrology at all, which is convenient seeing as how you seem to know nothing of it, and please, i challenge you to prove me wrong, please, i would like it).
do you know much about buddhist meditation? do you know much about astrology? do you know much about tarot? have you researched any of these things? if you have, then i apologize for my statement, whole-heartedly. but if you have researched these things, which by the way you speak i may only assume that you havnt, i stand by what i said... do some research. these things take some people life times to understand, and you expect some sort of answer at 15, or 17? im still a child in refernece to some of these realms of knowledge, and so are people twice, thrice my age. you stand no chance of understanding without actually trying to understand as oppsed to cutting everything down. not that im saying to ignore the objective school of thought, everything should be seen objectively, and mind you, i have a scientific mind, and more schooling than the both of you.
and for the record, freud was a hack. and his theories were NOT disproven, there is only strong evidence against them, i do not agree with his theories, but since this arguement seems to have degraded into an arguement of scemantics, please use the proper scientific vernacular.
i only added to this conversation because i thought it would be neat to introduce people to a new school of thought that they had obviously never experienced. and i now see that i may have been wrong.
And i understand credible arguement, and you dont have to believe me, in fact i havnt told you to... i have said
GO AND RESEARCH!!!!
which is logical. it is iollogical to disagree with something on principle instead of doing personal research.
There is logic, there is data, and whether you think that personalities are quantifiable or not, i still suggest you do more research on the subject. you dont seem to want to actually know anything about it, so, as opposed to wasting my time, i believe i will leave off with what ive been saying...
if you want to know what youre talking about, as opposed to just using elementary philosophical logic to explain away something youre scared to understand, go to the library and look it up. or even use your computer.
and think about this, what happens to photonic enrgy when it hits you? it diffuses? no... who are we to say that we fully understand the effects of light energy? stars give off photonic energy, that thanks to conservation of energy, and the idea that an object in motion... etc... reach this planet. there are many types of radiation that affect us that we dont fully understand, and i imagine there many that we cannot even detect or measure yet. and think of this, all things in the physical universe are gravitationally attracted to one another, such simple things as letting a child in the womb listen to music have been known to change the brain of the developing child. remember that where those planets are in relation to you very slightly changes the way that gravity effects you. take into account the fact that women, and men as well work on a lunar hormone cycle. all because of the position of a sattelite. and planets are merely sattelites of the sun. and back to gravity, gravity is merely an attraction of one mass to another, now think of how delicate the brain is, dont you think that during its development small changes in pressure or pull, predictable by the movement of the planets and stars, might change slightly the development of the brain? and i will stress again the fact that hormones are VERY delicately balanced by factors too numerous to mention here. in the end the way that we operate in a healthy manner can be entirely spun out of control by a hormone imbalance. this can even end in our deaths. another theory is that the human mind works in predicatable ways to the changing of the seasons. this is almost obvious. the temperature, the length of the day/night, the smells, the tastes, can all affect the developing mind quite adversely. but then comes into account the fact that it would change from one part of the world to another... which is part something else i said earlier, your sun sign is only the beggining. but anyhow...
thank you for the conversation, and i wish you the best in your intellectual journey.
GOOD LUCK