Hey, has anyone else heard about this? I saw a thirty-second clip on CNN about a vaccine for HIV being successful for the first time ever. It was a test in Thailand, and I think they said it worked for one-in-three of the people tested. That's pretty incredible, if you ask me, and it has been given minimal press coverage.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. It's real.Yes it is a massive scientific breakthrough, though not the home run they were looking for in terms of medical advancements. However, with working results and new data, more research can be done and hopefully a cure can be perfected. Not that that is what will happen, but it is more of a reality now with a successful vaccine.
also, recently discovered (HUGE too), bacteria can be prevented from adapting to a vaccine through the use of a certain chemical or substance (i forget what though, im in the process of looking it up...)
I cannot recall the exact details, but when Thailand made the vaccine they gave a few thousand the placebo and around seventy caught HIV, only around fifty people with the real vaccination caught HIV. So it's calculated at 33% drop in HIV infections.
Although the modern world has many warnings about unsafe sex, and sex without condoms, there are always going to be people who do not, cannot be bothered to recognise the dangers, etc. and so this is a great step forward in the modern world, considering HIV is one of the most lethal viruses on the planet.
Sadly, Ellame has a very good point:
The people who need this vaccine are the people who, most unfortunately, won't be able to get it.
We can always plan to get this to the Africans, but sadly- if ever we do-get the newfound vaccine to the Africans it will take many years to completely help African tribes and people with preventing themselves catching HIV or AIDS.
Out of how many thousands in the trial? That's amazing odds for messing with something like HIV.
We can always plan to get this to the Africans, but sadly- if ever we do-get the newfound vaccine to the Africans it will take many years to completely help African tribes and people with preventing themselves catching HIV or AIDS.
Especially since the smaller tribes won't be willing to accept the help in the first place.
apparently the survival rate went from 0% to 30% in patients. he said it was a huge leap and more % could be added with funding. it mirrors the polio vaccine accomplishment.
I haven't heard about this, but if it's true that's pretty awesome. I personally wouldn't get it; I don't like the idea of putting one of the worlds most deadly viruses into my body no matter how small the amount.
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But it's great, the only thing is they have no idea how or why it works, they just combined two other unsuccessful vaccines. Hopefully they continue the reasearch and we send AIDS the way of Polio.
they just combined two other unsuccessful vaccines
Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny. Kind of like, "Hell, nothing else has worked, lets give it a try..."
I'm hoping the fact that this is the first successful attempt will bring more benefactors to the cause. While success is a great start, they're a long way from figuring it out. Like you said, they have no clue why the vaccine worked. It's still going to cost a lot of money to solve this puzzle.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny. Kind of like, "Hell, nothing else has worked, lets give it a try..."
Meet American politics xP
I'm hoping the fact that this is the first successful attempt will bring more benefactors to the cause. While success is a great start, they're a long way from figuring it out. Like you said, they have no clue why the vaccine worked. It's still going to cost a lot of money to solve this puzzle.
Yea, but think of the money they can get if they pull it off, trillions.
Yea, but think of the money they can get if they pull it off, trillions.
That is very true. I wouldn't put it past some drug mega-corp to start funding for the chance of exclusive rights to the vaccine.
That's exactly the sort of thing that can't happen, though. I personally think it needs to be covered by all charitable efforts so that, when a vaccine is finally developed, it can be distributed to those who need it, and not sold to everyone who doesn't.
So... I was really excited about the vaccine at first, as shown by the fact that I started a topic about it, but the more and more I read about it, the more the test seems flawed. So, it isn't a controlled environment, at all. Who's to say the 30% difference was caused by the vaccine, and not just personal choices by the people in the test?
They took 16,000 people, half got the vaccine, and half got a placebo. After seven years, 71 people in the placebo group were HIV positive, while only 50 were in the vaccine group. But there is no proof, at least not that anyone has stated, to say that the difference has anything to do with the vaccine.
HIV can be contracted many different ways. Perhaps there was a higher percentage of drug-users in the placebo group, making them more likely to come into contact with the virus.
And that's the ticker. It wasn't a controlled environment, so there is absolutely no guarantee that people in either group would come into contact with the virus. So, there's no evidence saying the vaccine actually counteracts the effects of HIV.
I was really excited about this, but they might be making something out of nothing here. When I first heard details, I thought they would have done something at least to make sure the people were exposed to HIV, because that would show, without a doubt, whether or not the vaccine works.
check this out. Its just a thought and Im sure ppl could find more info if wanted, but its best to look from both sides of a coin, with a healthy dose of skeptical thought to both.
