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Moabarmorgamer
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Now, it's fairly self-explanatory.
Assissted suicide is to help someone commit suicide. But if someone wants to die, is it alright to help them? I mean, if someone's life is miserable, should you help put them out of their misery? It's like putting down an animal. Or is it?
The other side argues that assissted suicide is wrong; it's almost like murder. You're helping kill someone, therefore it's almost like killing them. It's wrong to kill someone, whether they want to live or not. Assissted murderers are punished, right? That's clearly wrong. And so is this.
So, I would like some talk.
Is assissted suicide all right?

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Graham
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i don't like that they're pushing for it so much. seems like they're encouraging it.

booklet "Your Life Your Choices" pg 23 handed out to returning injured veterans

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Assisting a suicide can be considered murder in some circumstances. In some countries the person who help somebody commit suicide are arrested as accomplices to murder.
I think that assisting suicide is a crime, cause the person who want to suicide has any right to do it (though it's never the best choice killing yourself), but you have no right to help him accomplish his task, it's his life not yours.

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Assisting a suicide can be considered murder in some circumstances. In some countries the person who help somebody commit suicide are arrested as accomplices to murder.
I think that assisting suicide is a crime, cause the person who want to suicide has any right to do it (though it's never the best choice killing yourself), but you have no right to help him accomplish his task, it's his life not yours.


We had that in the U.K but now the law has changed you can help someone get to a country where its legal so they can end their life, but when you come back they want to make sure you didn't just have someone killed.
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I think that if someone had nothing more they wanted from life, then they should end it, but if you were about to help someone commit suicide, I would have the person get some therapy so they might be able to turn their life around, instead of just completely ending it. If someone really wanted to die for so long, then you should let them.

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I'd have to say "assisted suicide", as you're calling it, is not okay. Frankly, I believe it's flat out murder. In the first place, suicide is not a terribly wonderful choice. I say if you want to help the person, don't help them kill them self, but rather help them with the problems that are causing them to think of such a solution.

Moabarmorgamer
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i don't like that they're pushing for it so much. seems like they're encouraging it.

What, me? I'm not encouraging it. I just want to see some debate. I don't really have an opinion on it.
I'd have to say "assisted suicide", as you're calling it, is not okay. Frankly, I believe it's flat out murder. In the first place, suicide is not a terribly wonderful choice. I say if you want to help the person, don't help them kill them self, but rather help them with the problems that are causing them to think of such a solution
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Out of curiosity, why did you put assissted suicide in quotation marks?
Veobahamut
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I'd have to say "assisted suicide", as you're calling it, is not okay. Frankly, I believe it's flat out murder. In the first place, suicide is not a terribly wonderful choice. I say if you want to help the person, don't help them kill them self, but rather help them with the problems that are causing them to think of such a solution.


The soloution is not easy, you can't just go to the guy and say "hey cheer up your going to die in a year"
compaq7550
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Out of curiosity, why did you put assissted suicide in quotation marks?[quote/]

Because in my opinion assisted suicide isn't real. It's another name for murder. Feel free to debate with me I'm having a boring day.

[quote]The soloution is not easy, you can't just go to the guy and say "hey cheer up your going to die in a year"


It's not very clear to me what you're trying to say. But what I meant was, if a person is having such a horrible life due to financial problems or medical problems that they can't cope any longer, you could help them cope rather than help them run away from it.
compaq7550
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Sorry about that, I accidentally quoted the entire post. xD

Graham
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What, me? I'm not encouraging it. I just want to see some debate. I don't really have an opinion on it.


nah man, just people

Because in my opinion assisted suicide isn't real. It's another name for murder.


a 1st degree murderer could use "assisted with suicide" as his motive.

suicide = selfish; jus cause you don't see/know about the problems doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Well, generally speaking, the assisted suicide debate has nothing to do with the random people who want to take a blade to their wrists. If it did, I would be completely against it.

More often than not, though, the question is whether or not it is OK to aid the terminally ill in killing themselves. Say an elderly man had a heart attack, is hooked up to life support and is going to die in a matter of days no matter what anyone does about it. Doctors are not allowed to pull the plug on him, even if he requests it. They can attempt to make the passing more peaceful with drugs, but they can't actually help him kill himself.

Assisted suicide is more helping someone who cannot kill themselves alone.

As I said, I do not support the idea of suicide in general. Everyone has a hard life at some point or another, and most people get through it. You shouldn't want to end it, and you definitely shouldn't want help doing so.

But in those few cases where someone literally can't survive, no matter what, I think assisted suicide is the merciful thing to do. Only if they wish it, of course.

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If I want to end my existence in this society, that should be ok, and If I want my friend to help me do it, that should be ok too.

but rather help them with the problems that are causing them to think of such a solution.


It's not that easy
ellame
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Would you be that selfish, though? If you want to kill yourself, have fun. But to actually want a friend to help? Even just seeing death can have a traumatic affect on people, and they often wouldn't expect it. To risk messing up your friend's life just because you can't deal?

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Would you be that selfish, though? If you want to kill yourself, have fun. But to actually want a friend to help? Even just seeing death can have a traumatic affect on people, and they often wouldn't expect it. To risk messing up your friend's life just because you can't deal?


I never said I want it to kill myself or anything. That would be another thing, that would be FORCING your friends to kill you, not asking them, but I guess i should have elaborated on my views.

If I were to kill yourself, I wouldn't ask or tell anyone, but if for some strange reason I wanted too, and my friends agreed to it for some strange reason, then it should be allowed.
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If I were to kill yourself, I wouldn't ask or tell anyone, but if for some strange reason I wanted too, and my friends agreed to it for some strange reason, then it should be allowed.


OK. I didn't think you were actually saying you wanted to kill yourself, but I did think you were saying you would want a friend's help if you did want to.

But, yeah, I actually agree. The only problem that arises is, well, you'd be dead, so there would be no proof that you had wanted suicide. People would probably just assume that your friend had murdered you and it would be a huge legal fiasco.

So, yeah, morally I oppose suicide. But legally, I don't think it should be such a huge problem. Like, it is actually illegal to commit suicide in the US. Friend or no, if you survive an attempt at suicide, you can get in serious trouble for having tried.
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