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TheDude42
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What's your opinion? I think hunting should be allowed if the animal is not a threatened species. This is because hunting is actually, in a sense, more environmentally friendly than buying food, and a lot of people find it fun. And it's not mean to animals, at least not compared to how chicken get killed to reach the produce isle.

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Elitemagical
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Animal Population is controlled naturally by the Predator vs. Prey relationshiop.

As the population of wolves rises they will eat more deer, the deer population will decrease causing starvation of wolves. With fewer wolves the deer population will rise, etc.

We don't need to control animal population. Except in the case of domesticated animals.


Ever heard of a thing called the Dodo . . . ? The humans did not starve because the Dodo died, they just found another food source.
Blu3sBr0s
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I am not moronic-there are three kingdoms, 'lantae', 'fungus', and 'animalia', more commonly known as plants, fungus, and animals. Under Animalia you can find class, the classes are as follows: crustaceans, birds, reptiles, amphibians, mammals, and birds. Since humans are covered in hair and believed to be in the direct bloodline of apes, we are in the class 'mammals', which is a sub-level of animals, so in future I'd rather you not call me moronic. :/


That is a biological classification system.
It classifies us based on common biological traits.

Forming societies is not a biological trait. And it is one of the things that seperates us. There is also our changing of the environment rather than adapting to it like other organisms. There is our concept of history.

We've created societies, but as soon as we go into the wild we are not bound to civilized manner we're expected to reach in society. As soon as I am out in the wilderness with a gun, I am no longer in a formed society, so I am allowed to kill whatever I want.


You are no longer in society, but you are using a weapon society gave you.

Kill a bear if you want, but don't use a gun. Make a spear from sharp rocks and a stick, make clothes from the pelts of small mammals. Then I'll consider your actions worthy of praise.

One animal that I'll use for an example is the wild boar, what predator is going to kill massive, powerful, and aggressive beasts? A coyote? A fox? A hawk? Some areas of the world don't have wolves or bears.


Something someones brought up against me that makes SENSE!!!

*applause*
Elitemagical
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Forming societies is not a biological trait. And it is one of the things that seperates us. There is also our changing of the environment rather than adapting to it like other organisms. There is our concept of history.


Changing the environment? So from cities, and other civilized places we are making it harder for other creatures (whom can only adapt) and therefore killing them. We are killing them from a civilized place. Are you seeing this contradiction?

You are no longer in society, but you are using a weapon society gave you.

Kill a bear if you want, but don't use a gun. Make a spear from sharp rocks and a stick, make clothes from the pelts of small mammals. Then I'll consider your actions worthy of praise.


Oh dear God! The pork! They killed the pig with a knife they obtained from society. Scowl them now! They are not worthy for their ways of killing.

Something someones brought up against me that makes SENSE!!!


LOL.
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Something someones brought up against me that makes SENSE!!!


Thats means I'm done. I'll let you and Elite keep going though

Kill a bear if you want, but don't use a gun. Make a spear from sharp rocks and a stick, make clothes from the pelts of small mammals. Then I'll consider your actions worthy of praise.


Lol, that isn't actually to bad of an idea.
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Hunting is not necessary in our society anymore. It should be illegal except in the case of Aboriginal people because it is a part of many religious events in their culture.

This is rediculous. You have no idea how many people hunt for both food and sport.

The animals in the wild don't deserve the same fate.


On what grounds? They are simple beasts just like domesticated animals.

As the population of wolves rises they will eat more deer, the deer population will decrease causing starvation of wolves. With fewer wolves the deer population will rise, etc.


Killing most of the wolves kinda screwed that up.

We don't need to control animal population. Except in the case of domesticated animals.


I think that starving people would disagree with that statement. We need all the livestock we can get. Cats and dogs however are an interesting delimma. We shove them into pounds and when no one takes them they are killed but not used for anything productive. Why not send them to China where they would serve a purpose? Or at least to the local Chinese restraunt for use in "chicken chow mein."
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Hunting is not necessary in our society anymore. It should be illegal except in the case of Aboriginal people because it is a part of many religious events in their culture.
This is rediculous. You have no idea how many people hunt for both food and sport.


Sport is the unecessary reason he was pointing out which I have to agree with to some extent.

The rest of the stuff I mostly agree with you, but at the same time we already hit those points.
Blu3sBr0s
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Killing most of the wolves kinda screwed that up.


When the deer population rises, then the wolf population will rise, decreasing the deer population.

Don't you see the cycle?!?!

You have no idea how many people hunt for both food and sport.


*coughunnecessary*

Oh dear God! The pork! They killed the pig with a knife they obtained from society. Scowl them now! They are not worthy for their ways of killing.


You obviously don't get the point.

You were trying to say that when you went out hunting you were some sort of "wild man" who escaped the laws of SOCIETY.

I was pointing out you are nothing of the sort.

Changing the environment? So from cities, and other civilized places we are making it harder for other creatures (whom can only adapt) and therefore killing them. We are killing them from a civilized place. Are you seeing this contradiction?


I didn't say our society wasn't flawed. In the ideal society we have as little affect on other life as possible.

We're on our way.
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You have no idea how many people hunt for both food and sport.


....maybe in Canada(Jk bulesbro) or in a 3ed world country. But not in the US or any major country.
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This data is from 2006

â¢12.5 million people 16 years old and older enjoyed hunting a variety of animals within the United States. They hunted 220 million days and took 185 million trips. Hunting expenditures totaled $22.9 billion.
â¢An estimated 10.7 million hunters pursued big game, such as deer and elk, on 164 million days.
â¢There were 4.8 million hunters of small game including squirrels and rabbits.
â¢They hunted small game on 52 million days and spent $2.4 billion on small game hunting trips and equipment.
â¢2.3 million hunted migratory birds such as doves or waterfowl
â¢1.1 million hunted other animals such as woodchucks and raccoons

That is quite a few people.

Blu3sBr0s
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....maybe in Canada(Jk bulesbro)


Nah it's true.

Hunting is huge in my country, so it's looked down upon to be against it a lot of times.

I remember when my uncle walked in the cabin with a grouse? he shot. I said "are you gonna kill us next?"

That's the response of the child seeing it for the first time xD
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repeat thread

Blu3sBr0s
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repeat thread


Yeah we know. But guess what? When you necro a thread people get annoyed as well, so why not just make a new one?

Geeeeeeze...
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Yes I think hunting should be legal if the animal isn't endangered and I think there should be more game wardens in the wild and the fishing warden guys because it has gotten out of hand right now...

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