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Klaushouse
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You are stupid.

Some of you stupid people do not understand how much money it costs to keep this site running. You have a even harder time understanding the complexity of Dan not having multiple money trees planted in his back yard beside his flying unicorns. Dan spends hundreds if not thousands making sure this site stays up and running for thousands of little children.

http://lh4.google.co.uk/charliechia/RwHQxG96fRI/AAAAAAAAAYo/od3WZw50cX4/s400/money_tree%20copy.jpg
This is not Dan, or his backyard.

Why do you like this site? Probably because it's very simple to register, join, login, play free games and talk to other kids. But this great and simple design didn't just appear. People were payed to design it, code it, and make so simple that a kid can come on and instinctively know what to do, making sure you have the best time possible, and this isn't cheap. At all. Not only does he pay coders/designers, but he pays game makers, quite substantial amounts of money to make the best games you all love. And he pays them a lot, if any of you pay attention you will know some people get thousands of dollars for a single game.

http://www.undeadreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/the_last_stand_2.jpg
This cost Dan thousands of dollars, and you pay $0 to play it.

But hey! All these great features, we must be paying a lot for this much free games, and user easy of access! How much? Oh wait nothing! But wait a second... let's do some off the top of my head math...

Dan + No User Fees = Expensive To Maintain Website

No that just doesn't sound around right. There must be a missing factor.

Dan + No User Fees + X = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now let's brain storm and see what X could be that keeps this site running, oh wait no I know, ads! So the equation goes like this:

Dan + No User Fees + Ads = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now in reality the equation is much more complex but we will keep it simple for you. But what happens if you take the ads away from the equation? It's like taking away the 4 from 4 + 2 = 6, it just won't make sense or work out. Which is why they exist.

http://tonova.typepad.com/thesuddencurve/images/2008/08/16/hillbilly.jpg
Average AG user trying to keep up with my math.

[quote]Don't worry guys, don't like ads? Use ad blocker! So cool!

Says 'Stupid Child A'
But aren't the ads there for a reason? Or why else would they be there?

Says 'Moderately Smart Child B'
Don't be stupid, ads are just there to annoy us, they don't mind if we block them, makes no difference!

Replies 'Stupid Child A'
Oh okay, I guess that makes sense Stupid Child A. Thanks for pointing that out to me, let's go whine about Sonny 3 and how it's taking forever just after Sonny 2 came out a week ago!

Says 'Recently Deemed Stupid Child B'
Yeah let's go!

Finishes 'Stupid Child A'[/quote]

By blocking ads to make your petty lives easier, you are making harder for Dan to keep the site running, because he gets less money because of it. You block ads and this makes him want to keep this site under his management less and less, because money will soon come out of his pocket, money he works hard for, and deserves to keep. By blocking ads you are ensuring that this site won't survive for long. You will keep whining that the site has ads until he can't afford to run the site and either:
A) Sells it off to someone who will change the site to your dislike.
B) Make the site pay-2-play, so you will all have to pay.
C) Close the site in it's entirety.

http://io9.com/assets/resources/2008/02/1984_movie_big_brother.jpg
The future of ArmorGames due to Ad-Blockers.

You whine, but you pay nothing. If you were all ready to pay money yourselves, then complain, but if you don't like the idea of a pay to view website, you better expect a few ads. Think of the ads as your donation/fee to Dan to keep the site up, by blocking them you are trying to view the site without even paying the little minuscule entrance fee.

I don't mind ads, but now they are popping up in front of my screen and on the sides of the site! Normal ones are fine but they are now literally littering my screen to a point where I can't navigate the site.

Would you like to know who is to blame? Yourselves. This is a direct consequence of all you stupid kids who block ads, and lose Dan money.

Lets say it cost 10 dollars to run the site(it's not $10, but just as an example to explain). And the ads pay for let's say 11 dollars.
This 10 dollars goes to maintaining the site, and the extra dollar is put aside to save up and make the site even better. This comes to us as additional content or upgrades to the site/forum.

Now lets say that the ads pay for 11 usually, but now because people are blocking ads, he only gets 9 from them instead of 11. So this means he can't afford maintaining the site, let alone adding new things to it! How can this be? He will need to find a new way to make up for the 2 dollars he loses because of kids like you who block, and how does he do this? He compensates for the loss by making the other users who don't block, have even more ads. Annoying ads that appear on the sides and even over the site are there because he needs those to compensate for the loss of money generated by those who block ads. So not only are you making more ads appear by blocking, but you are making sure that he can't make enough money to update the site. You all complain new features never come on the site, and that is mainly because all the money that WOULD go to updating AG goes right into maintaining the normal site, due to losing money from blockers.

http://xjtian94.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/internet-advertising.jpg
Frontpage of Armorgames if enough people start blocking ads.

I hope you stupid kids semi understand this, so that you stop blocking the site. Because you are the main cause of it's lack of updates and increased ads. So unless you have a check ready to be payed to ArmorGames every month to ensure it staying up, I suggest you shut up and live with the ads.

P.S. I said stupid 6 times in this, almost a personal record.
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MrDayCee
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The only thing I know to do until it's gone is ctrl alt del and bypass it. DON'T click on it at all!!!


The last sentence I understand completely... =)

But pressing ctrl alt del?! Isn't that a bit over the top? o_O
DingusKhan
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Peasant

It's a rather simple keystroke and gets the job done. To some it may be a little overboard but it works for me.

MrDayCee
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King

It's a rather simple keystroke and gets the job done. To some it may be a little overboard but it works for me.


Agreed, but is the problem really solved then? I mean, if you go back to Armor Games, it will then simply happen again... and again... and... you know! o_O
MrDayCee
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Agreed on the topic, but to pull out the (obvious) argument against it (again)... some advertisements can be a real pain in the b*** when you're busy playing games and all of a sudden they pop up, block the screen and make you crash...

And for the torching of NG... they have some good things, but that's a personal opinion of mine, being the music streams and downloads! That's the only reason I go there, for games I come to Armor Games!

yielee
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yielee
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AG could have a special ad of the day, or something, where we could rate it and review it, just like we do for games. We would get points if we visit it, which would make the advertisers happy, AG would get more money and better feedback for higher quality ads, and we get points, or did I say that? In summary, everyone wins!

daflinger
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daflinger
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Nomad

I'm all for ads to give the site money and stuff, but could we just get the random game button back?

Ciperl
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Ciperl
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Nomad

I'm all for a site making money, but how about offering users the option of purchasing an upgrade to their account to get rid of the ads. Keep ads for the "free" account holders and get rid of them for those that pay.

Ernie15
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how about offering users the option of purchasing an upgrade to their account to get rid of the ads


Why would anyone pay just to not have ads? It seems like a ridiculously huge waste of money to me.
TharosTheDragon
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Farmer

Why would anyone pay just to not have ads? It seems like a ridiculously huge waste of money to me.


Why would anyone use an ad blocker? That seems like a ridiculously huge waste of money to me. It costs us nothing to have ads, yet it costs the site a lot for us to use an ad blocker. How selfish can a person be, to deny a benefit to someone else when it would cost them nothing?

If people don't want ads, let them pay! Why not? Obviously ads are so disproportionately terrible to them and they hate the idea of a free game site.
yielee
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yielee
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Why would anyone use an ad blocker?


That's because Armorgames.com said we should use Firefox with Ad-Block.
Dannydaninja
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Nomad

I like ads! ... so yeah. It also makes AG money.

TharosTheDragon
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Farmer

That's because Armorgames.com said we should use Firefox with Ad-Block.


What are you talking about?
bazaar
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Nomad

Why would anyone use an ad blocker? That seems like a ridiculously huge waste of money to me. It costs us nothing to have ads, yet it costs the site a lot for us to use an ad blocker. How selfish can a person be, to deny a benefit to someone else when it would cost them nothing?


The cost is that it bothers and inconveniences me, which is many thousands of times more important than ArmorGames' ad revenue. Geez, a lot of people here are pretty butthurt that some of us don't want to be cash whores for one of the hundreds of websites we use periodically.
yielee
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yielee
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Shepherd

That's because Armorgames.com said we should use Firefox with Ad-Block.

What are you talking about?



Armorgames can't control when they get malware and viruses on there site. They said so. It's not coming from them, it's from the advertisers. So if a advertiser gets hit, then they get hit. You don't know when it's gonna happen, but they assure us it won't happen again. How do they know when they can't control it?

"AG is not constantly infected with malware, as you seem to think it is. This has never happened before and it is an isolated incident. If you want to avoid it in the meantime, use Firefox with Ad-Block." - Carlie


I don't ever want that happening to me again, so I followed their advise. Now I use Firefox with Ad-Block and I don't get those dangerous ads no more. I have to protect myself before I worry about their loss of income. Now that they got me using Ad-Block Plus, they'd have to pay me to turn it off!
TharosTheDragon
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Farmer

The cost is that it bothers and inconveniences me, which is many thousands of times more important than ArmorGames' ad revenue.


Well there you have it folks. That's how selfish a person can be.

Now that they got me using Ad-Block Plus, they'd have to pay me to turn it off!


Carlie does not equal Armorgames.com. And that might be taking her advice a little too far.
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