ForumsWEPRAre there too many BABIES?

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DrCool1
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In America there are millions of kids and babies. Many families have 4,5,6 even more kids. I have seen kids young as 15 having their first child and the time they are 30 they are having baby 8 or 9. Why are we doing this people? America is already over populated. Are schools and health care has become over loaded because of this. I know it's an American right to have all the kids you want but really people this is not 300 years ago on a farm and a nuclear war did not happen killing most of the population. I am not against having kids but just have 1 or 2. How would America be like if we were like China and a person could only have 2 children?

Well what do you think?

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rafterman
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Right. Ultimately, they have the same effect. Both murder and abortion prevent the individual from living.

By that logic abortion and dieing of old age have the same effect.
Flagon
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By that logic abortion and dieing of old age have the same effect.


Good point.

*Both murder and abortion are actions by others that prevent the individual from living.

Sorry for not making that clear initially.
thisISanalt
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*Both murder and abortion are actions by others that prevent the individual from living.


But living to an old age is also an action. Or, at least, allowing yourself to live to an old-enough age to die from old age, no?
Flagon
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Yes, living is an action. I'm not refuting the whole old age thing, but did you see the part where I said "actions by others"? Mr. A can murder Mr. B, but Mr. C can't cause Mr. D to live old enough to die from old age.

rafterman
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Metaphorically, a fetus stops a mother from living.

thisISanalt
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Yes, living is an action. I'm not refuting the whole old age thing, but did you see the part where I said "actions by others"? Mr. A can murder Mr. B, but Mr. C can't cause Mr. D to live old enough to die from old age.


There is a possibility that they would prevent Mr. D from dying though. A possibility.
Flagon
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Prevent from dying? That's a different case in itself then.

I'll be back on later. That pizza isn't going to cook itself, sadly.

FireflyIV
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I don't quite see the question in the OP. You seemed to be implying that overpopulation was a bad thing, but then tail off at the end with the China analogy.

First off though, I'd lke to address this argument:

America is already over populated. Are schools and health care has become over loaded because of this.


This is more to do with terrible resource management than overpopulation itself. America has the capacity to educate and treat a much larger population.

And now the queston:

How would America be like if we were like China and a person could only have 2 children?


Seeing as the average number of children per family in America is close to 2, I don't think it would be very different.
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Seeing as the average number of children per family in America is close to 2, I don't think it would be very different.


Oh, it would be. You wouldn't see all these pregnant rednecks walkin around in Wal-Mart with 6 kids already
FireflyIV
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Oh, it would be. You wouldn't see all these pregnant rednecks walkin around in Wal-Mart with 6 kids already


As the average number of children per family is around 2, then these 'rednecks' you speak of constitute an extreme minorty. Either way, how does seeing these women really affect you anyway?
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Oh, it would be. You wouldn't see all these pregnant rednecks walkin around in Wal-Mart with 6 kids already


How the F are rednecks a problem or bothering you?, freaken racist
Green12324
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In your ignorance you just ignored BaronScot's observation that it is a 1 child rule. Pay attention.


Each family was encouraged to have two children during the time that I spoke of, the one child limit was introduced later. About the one child limit, it was often not enforced in rural parts of the country though, mostly in urban areas. Additionally, I don't base my posts off of what BaranScot says. He may be an intelligent person, but I'm not about to start citing him when giving facts.

P.S. Remember this, 7th post on the page? You really shouldn't plagiarize Wikipedia.
Canuck
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Plagirist!

You do realize that there is a population problem... everywhere! Currently, there are 7 billion people on Earth, and with ice caps melting, roughly 40 percent of Earth's total population (I'm getting all of this from an Inconvenient Truth), will have no water, and guess what groups and villages do to other villages when they have no water?

They either help out, or war.

playaholic
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you know what my mom said about singaporeans?we're evolving slowly into rabbits

FireflyIV
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You do realize that there is a population problem... everywhere!/quote]

Population problem everywhere? In many developed countries, like Japan, the birth rate is well into the negative, and it's causing massive problems.

[quote]Currently, there are 7 billion people on Earth, and with ice caps melting,


Why is the fact there are 7 billion people on the Erath a bad thing?

Also, you think climate change has never happened without humans? I am not saying that there are no potential bad side effects, just that they are easily (in theory) manageable, and not an immutable by-product of population increases.

roughly 40 percent of Earth's total population (I'm getting all of this from an Inconvenient Truth), will have no water, and guess what groups and villages do to other villages when they have no water?


You are oversimplifying an exceedingly complex system, which leaves you to make a number of false conclusions about the situation. These problems are simply a result of a lack of efficiency in the way we run things. We don't need less people, we need to fix the systems we already have.
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