ForumsWEPRChristmas vs. The Lemon Test

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Green12324
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What I'd like to discuss is Christmas, in regards to the government's recognition of it as a national holiday.

You most likely know that Christmas is a Christian holiday which celebrates the birth of Jesus. However, the Lemon Test (established by the Supreme Court resulting from Lemon v. Kurtzman) clearly states that when the government takes any type of action it must meet three requirements: its actions must be of a secular legislative purpose, must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion, and must not result in "excessive government entanglement" with religion.

My point being, does the government's recognition of Christmas as a national holiday (1870) violate the first point of the Lemon Test? After all, Christmas is definitely not a secular holiday.

I thought this would be an interesting point to discuss. Your views?

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RenegadePlayer
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christmas is a holiday for christians, like honica (however you spell it) for jewish people, kwuanza is an african american holiday, and i dont know any more... but they are all national holidays made by the people of america.

samy
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I don't know about that... I would say George Washington, or someone like that. Jesus (supposing he did exist) didn't seem to actual do a lot.


Your kidding, I mean honestly he created the worlds largest religion. No offence to George Washington but no book about him is THE international best seller. But grr...thread time.
Thyll
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Sure saving the entire world from eternal d amnation isn't doing much...

Debatable. I wouldn't have even brought that up if I were you.
Thyll
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Your kidding, I mean honestly he created the worlds largest religion.
No, HE didn't. He was Jewish, as everyone was at the time. He... Inspired it.
samy
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Just made a new forum go argue on that if you wouldn't mind.

dyrnwyn
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I think that Christmas is ingrained enough in the public mind to really have no connection to Christ at all. I knew about Christmas well before I knew it had anything to do with religion. Christmas to me is just a time to be with family. It has no connection to Christ in my mind.

balerion07
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Its called a thread samy.

Everyone was jewish huh?

Well so much for the Samaritans, Greeks, Romans, and all the other Gentiles they had to deal with.

AnaLoGMunKy
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Pagans to Christians to Everyone


Hitting the nail on the head there.

I mean it does celebrate the birth of the most influential man in human history, kinda deserves to be a big deal you know?


That is up for debate on soooo many levels.
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