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XVERB
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should abortions be legal or illegal? why?

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rafterman
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What of the strain of having a developing human ripped out of you?

Sucked and scraped actually.

Because we should really punish a child for his parent's actions.

Should we punish the parent(the one who was raped) because of the other parents actions?
Nurvana
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Sucked and scraped actually.


Should we punish the parent(the one who was *****) because of the other parents actions?


I think that medical science has progressed a little past that. Is childbirth punishment?
German3945
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What of the strain of having a developing human ripped out of you?

First of all, most realize they're pregnant before it's too late to have a shot abortion, or that the fetus will not be large.
Second of all, it would be much less than HAVING YOUR RAPIST'S CHILD INSIDE OF YOU AND BEING REMINDED OF IT SEVERAL TIMES AN HOUR. You severely underestimate the severity of the mental breakdown a rape causes, regardless of harboring a rapist's genes.
Because we should really punish a child for his parent's actions.

Considering most severely aggressive behaviors are linked to genes, that's not as out-of-discussion as you make it out to be.
Thyll
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What of the strain of having a developing human ripped out of you?

There was a study a while ago saying that there is NO mental trauma for would-be mothers after aborting an unplanned pregnancy unless it was already there.
/Will post links as soon as I find them.
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There was a study a while ago saying that there is NO mental trauma for would-be mothers after aborting an unplanned pregnancy unless it was already there.


Are you referring to abortive chemicals or what? Your statement makes little sense.
German3945
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he's referring to aborting a fetus within the womb.

"would-be mothers after aborting"

TheDude42
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Should we punish the parent(the one who was *****) because of the other parents actions?

No, but we shouldn't punish the child either.
Here's a question: What if a child that had been killed by abortion would have grown up to be a great leader?
balerion07
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Ya, I think that is total bullshit. Thousands of mothers who have killed their unborn children live to regret it for the rest of their lives.

rafterman
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I think that medical science has progressed a little past that. Is childbirth punishment?

It could easily be considered punishment, being forced to keep a parasite inside of you for 9 months then having to care for it for 18 years while spending hundreds of thousands on it.

No, but we shouldn't punish the child either.
Here's a question: What if a child that had been killed by abortion would have grown up to be a great leader?

What if? Its more likely that a wanted child would grow up to be a great leader, its just as likely that a sperm blocked by a condom could have fertilized an egg that would have grown up to be a great leader.

Ya, I think that is total bull****. Thousands of mothers who have killed their unborn children live to regret it for the rest of their lives.

I highly doubt that, and even if they did at least they had the option and they would only have themselves to blame.
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What if a child that had been killed by abortion would have grown up to be a great leader?


Here's a more likely statement for if it had been say, a teenage girl having that child. Poor, not educated, possibly abused. In some cases, it just is better to not have the baby. Now, this might not be the case if the girl knows she is unable to take care of it and gives it up for adoption or seeks help, but most likely, that baby will have a hard life.
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Here's a more likely statement for if it had been say, a teenage girl having that child. Poor, not educated, possibly abused. In some cases, it just is better to not have the baby. Now, this might not be the case if the girl knows she is unable to take care of it and gives it up for adoption or seeks help, but most likely, that baby will have a hard life.

It's better than not living at all.
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Because we should really punish a child for his parent's actions.


You never answered the question. Do you really think a couple unable to conceive would be inclined to adopt the child of a rapist?
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Here's a question: What if a child that had been killed by abortion would have grown up to be a great leader?


This is such a bullls**t argument.

There's just as much chance for that aborted embryo/fetus to be a criminal or a dictator, in fact more because there're more criminals in the world than world leaders. Also, it's a what-if. It doesn't give good enough reason to outlaw or even prove the moral wrongness of abortions. Either way, we wouldn't care if we missed out on having that great wold leader because we wouldn't know about that world leader in the first place. So this statement is completely useless.
goumas13
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Off-topic: very often great leaders are also great criminals.

thisisnotanalt
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But there are also a hell of a lot more criminals that are just criminals.

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