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Lately, I've been thinking about this. As it's been proven that all people come from one zygote, completely chemically/biologically, do people really have souls/spirits? I believe that God created the Earth and Adam/Eve, and gained the conclusion that they definitely had souls as God directly created them. And if they were the only ones with a soul, does that mean they were the only ones truly able to communicate with God? Another thing to add might be 'What is a soul, exactly?' or 'Do you believe that life is just more than chemicals?'
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Being Buddhist I believe there is some kind of "soul", though as to what it is or where it came from I don't know. I do believe that life is more than just chemicals because you cannot create conscious with chemicls. (well as far as we know anyways.)
I think it was believed that the cells in the brain store memory and stuff, and that the synapses and stuff really information. Making consciousness or thought more or less understood. But to be honest, I really don't know much about that kinda stuff.
And is Buddhism the one that believes in reincarnation? Or is that Hinduism or both? I remember one of them did and they both have karma and stuff, but I'm not sure as to which one exactly. But if Buddhism IS the one with rebirth, then that would mean that our souls aren't our own, but the peoples before us, meaning that all our souls are just re-used and such, right?
But if Buddhism IS the one with rebirth, then that would mean that our souls aren't our own, but the peoples before us, meaning that all our souls are just re-used and such, right?
Buddhism does include rebirth, but the souls are our own, well in a way. Each soul is one being, trying to reach nirvana. On that path the soul can be many different humans or animals. The soul changes everytime the physical body dies, but yet remains the same. It is a little difficult to understand the ideas fully, I am still trying to read and understand all of it.
If you are interested on some takes on the view of a Human Soul, I recommend reading "The Fall" by Albert Camus or "The Republic" by Plato. Sadly, I read those over 4 years ago in my high school theology/philosophy class, and I cannot remember their views. But at the time I found them extremely intriguing. I think SilentQ, and others interested in the topic, might want to check those out!
'Do you believe that life is just more than chemicals?'
Given my track record on these forums, I don't think it comes as a surprise to say no, no I don't.
I do believe that life is more than just chemicals because you cannot create conscious with chemicls.
You also need an electrical charge interacting with those chemicals.
I do not remember any sources, but I have heard numerous times that a study/studies have been done that immediately before death people weight x pounds, and then right after they weigh slightly less than x pounds. Do you think this could be a soul leaving the body? But that brings up the question, "does a soul have weight". I think it is very interesting none the less! What do you think?
When I think of a soul, I think of a link with God, instead of just your consciousness or something. Therefore, a link with God shouldn't have weight, as it's more of a bond or relation.
Also, I think that phenomena could be explained by rigor mortis, or when the body becomes rigid soon after death. If the muscles are tightening up, then the muscles are effective less of an area, causing the surface pressure to decrease, thus messing with the scale making the body weigh less.
In Hinduism its not so much that your soul isn't your own but that the body is a reflection of the soul, that's why the belief in reincarnation also says that depending on your actions in a previous life your will be reincarnated as a higher or lower life form.
Lately, I've been thinking about this. As it's been proven that all people come from one zygote, completely chemically/biologically, do people really have souls/spirits? I believe that God created the Earth and Adam/Eve,
If you believe that, then listen to this. Adam and eve could not have been the only 2 humans in the world at first. One, evolution has proved that it takes millions of years for a species to split, and also, the gene pool between two people is not large enough to sustain a population. There would have to be more than 2, thus meaning that either the bible was wrong in god created only 2 people, or that adam and eve were just fictional.
As for the soul, I think people just believe in that because they are scared that when they die they wont exist anymore, so they created something that will.
If the muscles are tightening up, then the muscles are effective less of an area, causing the surface pressure to decrease, thus messing with the scale making the body weigh less.
The body wouldn't weigh less if it had less area... Matter is matter, and if it's more compressed it still weighs the same.
The body wouldn't weigh less if it had less area... Matter is matter, and if it's more compressed it still weighs the same.
Yes, the mass still stays the same, but he is talking about weight. With the weight less spread out and more condensed, it is exerting less pressure on the scale over all, making it seem lighter.
With the weight less spread out and more condensed, it is exerting less pressure on the scale over all, making it seem lighter.
Scales don't work that way and neither does gravity. Regardless if the weight is distributed over a large area or a small area its not gonna affect the scale. You can't change the weight of something by reducing the area. If I ball up some foil its not gonna fool a scale into thinking it weighs less.
Actually you can fool the scale. A simple way of doing this is putting your hand on the scale. You'll see the weight, etc. Then if you push down on the scale with the same hand, without adding any extra mass, the scale will say the weight has increased. Thus, the mass hasn't increased at all, but the force. And in this case, the force is lessened, by not being distributed throughout the whole scale.
Actually you can fool the scale. A simple way of doing this is putting your hand on the scale. You'll see the weight, etc. Then if you push down on the scale with the same hand, without adding any extra mass, the scale will say the weight has increased. Thus, the mass hasn't increased at all, but the force. And in this case, the force is lessened, by not being distributed throughout the whole scale.
Aren't you just putting more weight on it from the rest of your bod?
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