Forums → Games → I need to find 2 flash games, forgot their names

one is a action/rpg game,where you can choose between characters, i think it was made by armorgames(or the old game of gondor) I remember a guy can throw axe, there are 5 upgrade points for each upgrade, there are different zones, the graphic kind of looks like this (i drew it myself so it might not be close)


the other one is a shooting game like raiden,it have black and white basic graphics, and you can upgrade each weapon to 3 levels, and there is a "a-fighter"enemy,that cant shoot,thats all I can remember,it looks something like this