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Chenkov
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I was just playing on the Xbox 360, when, out of nowhere, I get a RROD, with a bright red light and 2 faint ones flashing. I couldn't believe it, because I was only around 6-7 days out of warranty. I was searching the internet about this, and the problem seems that in the console itself, there is two X shaped metal bits that make the Xbox work, but Microsoft used cheap glue to glue them on, so they can fall off easily. Much less pay £100+ to get it fixed, I bought a DIY kit, which has yet to arrive because of the snow here in the UK. So now my Xbox is in pieces, ready to be repaired when the kit is delivered.

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thisisnotanalt
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Yeah, I've never really trusted Microsoft whiners like you about that because between 3 360s I've never had a problem with RROD. 1st break was due to the disc tray reader breaking out of warranty(I think due to the fact that I would mess around with it a lot, lol), 2nd due to me forgetting to turn it off before I went to bed . . . .

Anyway, I've never had x-clamp problems before. Ever.

crimsonblade55
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2nd due to me forgetting to turn it off before I went to bed . . . .


That's why there is an option to have it automatically shut off after 6 hours of inactivity.

I actually got the 1 ring(or really the 1/4 of a ring to be more accurate) when I first got my first xbox, but it still worked(for the most part) up until after the warranty ran out, which to me was actually a good thing since I had an excuse to buy the new limited edition red xbox 360 elite(came out the week after mine broke) it sounds like a lawnmower when you start loading up a disk(then quiets down soon after) but that's about it. The people who get RROD nowadays are just unlucky and probably bought one awhile back. I've never heard of this x shaped piece of metal before, or the issues that come with it.
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i have an xbox 360 and have no problems with it yet but all of my friends that have xboxes are always complaining about how theirs broke. but my friends with ps3 have had no probles. sony makes better quality stuff... like the TV my dad has had for 21 years

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I have also never heard that before RROD usually happens because people don't turn it off or don't give it proper ventilation. You can't believe everything you read on the Internet. Also every console uses some sort of cheap parts this isn't only Microsoft, though RROD happen way to often.

Chenkov
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yes but I wouldn't mind if Microsoft cut corners on the graphics or sound, but when it is impossible to do anything, it does make me a little angry.
A picture of an X-clamp:
http://search.freecause.com/?rm=click&mod=images&url=53616c7465645f5f0a4f9becadd40702e4db2425b08efed6e528ade5eda99a603d674181cf6cbabc0171c196cd65553038e3f6cf19ccf82573b558a47781f4ab6cf2a955846d13bb&clicktype=100&userid=15269065&toolid=60195

Chenkov
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Also, my Xbox is in a room where I open the window about 6 times a day for about 2 hours, even though I only use the xbox for 2, maybe three hours.

Chenkov
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But the problem is not my fault, I mean if a drunk driver ran over me while I was on the pavement, should I have to apoligise to him and pay for his medical bills? If it's not my fault I shouldn't have to pay.

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But the problem is not my fault, I mean if a drunk driver ran over me while I was on the pavement, should I have to apoligise to him and pay for his medical bills? If it's not my fault I shouldn't have to pay.


The melodrama is killing us. It really is.

Seriously though, they haven't cut corners. Most 360s don't fail due to x-clamp problems. You were unlucky. One person with one problem doesn't equal massive corner-cutting.
Xzeno
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Alt, the hardware failure rates don't lie: A significant portion
(over half based on Game Informer reader survey) of 360s fail. It's not one guy with one problem, it's a lot of guys with a couple problems.

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Alt, the hardware failure rates don't lie: A significant portion


Oh, I'm not arguing against that. I'm arguing that him getting an x-clamp failure doesn't mean that Microsoft used cheap glue to clamp them down. I know lots of 360s fail.
thisisnotanalt
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Fun fact is, Microsoft doesn't even clamp the x-clamps down with glue. Lol. So they aren't made with cheap glue. The reason for the problem is that 360 casings aren't straight-bended at production, and this sometimes causes the solder that fixes the mainboard to the GPU to go out. The x-clamps don't always generate enough pressure to keep the mainboard clamps to the GPU. The x-clamps coming loose themselves before any other problem occurs is I believe not very common.

Xzeno
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Oh, then we are in agreement: Red Rings of Death, the most common form of hardware failure*, aren't X-clamp related. Heck, I didn't even know the x-clamps existed until now.

* This may or may not be true. I'd bet money it is, though.

thisisnotanalt
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Oh, then we are in agreement: Red Rings of Death, the most common form of hardware failure*, aren't X-clamp related. Heck, I didn't even know the x-clamps existed until now.


Yepperdoodles. Also, there *is* an extended warranty for 360s that lasts like 5 or 6 years tat you can buy for $80. If your 360 breaks and you have the extended warranty, you can get a new one free.
Xzeno
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A warranty plan, while helpful, does not mitigate the original problem much: Microsoft should have spent more time and money on preventing the problem in the first place.

I also consider eighty bucks way too much. The problem is so prevalent that they are effectively increasing the price. The warranty should be free.

Now I get the feeling I'm creating debate where none exists. Would you call that being thorough or trolling? I hope the former. Can someone even troll by accident?

thisisnotanalt
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A warranty plan, while helpful, does not mitigate the original problem much: Microsoft should have spent more time and money on preventing the problem in the first place.


Of course. I never argued that.

I also consider eighty bucks way too much. The problem is so prevalent that they are effectively increasing the price. The warranty should be free.


It's still a hell of a lot better than having to buy a new one, but it should be free.

Now I get the feeling I'm creating debate where none exists. Would you call that being thorough or trolling? I hope the former. Can someone even troll by accident?


Considering there's no debate going on anymore, I'd say no >.>
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