OK, so, i have seen MANY things on this board about religion, and, surprisingly, Ive seen misconceptions made by both sides of the argument(This is about Christianity, as that is what i am, a christian)
(this is in no particular order)
1. Wars. Wars are NOT gods orders or needs, they are the wants, needs, and traditions of MAN.
2. Churches are NOT meant to be walled in, god is not confined to a box, although, that's how most Christians behave! They go to church, they sit at a boring sermon, act all brotherly, then leave ASAP, and never talk to each other afterwords. The church is the Body of Christ, the people, not the building.
3.Christians who force there beliefs on you, are doing it wrong.
If there are ANY other questions i will answer them to the best of my ability, i would continue my list, but its dinner time, ill be back in like an hour or something.
1. Wars. Wars are NOT gods orders or needs, they are the wants, needs, and traditions of MAN.
War is a diplomatic decision. The diplomat can believe himself to be impowered by the decision of God. itso--facto--- diplomats make decision according to their belief = their order of GOD.
2. Churches are NOT meant to be walled in, god is not confined to a box, although, that's how most Christians behave! They go to church, they sit at a boring sermon, act all brotherly, then leave ASAP, and never talk to each other afterwords. The church is the Body of Christ, the people, not the building.
who does this?
3.Christians who force there beliefs on you, are doing it wrong.
3.Christians who force there beliefs on you, are doing it wrong.
Now there's a stereotype. And what leads you to believe that there is a "right way" to force beliefs on someone? If you're doing it by force, there is no right or wrong way of doing it.
1. Wars. Wars are NOT gods orders or needs, they are the wants, needs, and traditions of MAN.
The total annihilation of the 7 nations of Canaan, the constant wars with the Philistines, the conquering of the east side of the Jordan, the wars between Israel and Judah, and the defenses during all the invasions.......
Did I miss something when I read all that stuff?
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The total annihilation of the 7 nations of Canaan, the constant wars with the Philistines, the conquering of the east side of the Jordan, the wars between Israel and Judah, and the defenses during all the invasions.......
Don't think I could have said it better myself.
Though it does baffle me how you seem to be so well aware of all the cruelty God either condoned or had a direct hand in and still praise and worship him as being all loving. Or I could be wrong but then you would be knowingly praising and worshiping a cruel vindictive S.O.B. which still baffles me.
who does this?
If I was to guess I would say he was talking about the weekend Christian. The ones that don't behave very "Christian" like all week then think it's okay because they go to church on Sunday.
You have never once read me saying that Jehovah is all loving. I know better. God must also be just. I have argued with some of the more "happy, everything is fine and dandy" Christians that try to claim we are all God's children when the Bible says things to the contrary many times over.
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You have never once read me saying that Jehovah is all loving. I know better. God must also be just. I have argued with some of the more "happy, everything is fine and dandy" Christians that try to claim we are all God's children when the Bible says things to the contrary many times over.
Okay excuse my confusion over what your beliefs are. With 10,000+ different view points on the same God it can get a bit tricky to keep track at times.
War is a diplomatic decision. The diplomat can believe himself to be impowered by the decision of God. itso--facto--- diplomats make decision according to their belief = their order of GOD.
It's still man's choice though. God and religion may influence them, but in the end man chooses to go to war.
2. Churches are NOT meant to be walled in, god is not confined to a box, although, that's how most Christians behave! They go to church, they sit at a boring sermon, act all brotherly, then leave ASAP, and never talk to each other afterwords. The church is the Body of Christ, the people, not the building.
Also people who believe that if one doesn't attend church regularly then they must not believe in their religion. Church is a creation of man where preachers advance their personal views. Religious texts can be interpreted in many different ways, and going to church to listen to sermons is the lazy and dependent way of getting information.
Mhh, I was wondering if any of you could point out to me a recent conflict that was started by Christians for religious beliefs. I'm not saying there isn't any, but there isn't any that I'm aware of Because if we're talking about the crusades here, then we have to put things back into their context rather than saying "God wanted Christians to kill all the Turks and Muslims"...The Middle Ages were a pretty dark period for us humans.
You have never once read me saying that Jehovah is all loving. I know better. God must also be just. I have argued with some of the more "happy, everything is fine and dandy" Christians that try to claim we are all God's children when the Bible says things to the contrary many times over.
Are you here talking about what the Bibe says when taken on its entirety, or are you talking about the Old Testament? It is true that in the Old Testament, God had chosen a people and thus the other nations of sinners were condemned. However, the New testament makes it clear that through Jesus, everybody has access to God. Of course, God loves us all, and I dare you to find a pastor/theologian/anyone who knows what he's talking about, saying the contrary. However, even if you love someone, that doesn't mean you can't punish them if they disobey, on the contrary! God cannot bear sin and people have to pay the consequences of theirs...
