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Drace
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http://edition.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/01/27/sarkozy.davos.bank.regulation/index.html

From the moment we accepted the idea that the market was always right and that no other opposing factors need be taken into account, globalization skidded out of control

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Green12324
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He criticized extreme de-regulating of the large businesses that greatly influence the economy, not capitalism in practice. In practice capitalism requires some regulation, while pure capitalism would constitute no government interference.

BlackMath
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Capitalism needs criticizing, as does everything. Honestly, you can't say that capitalism works 100%, because it doesn't. Capitalism helps some while ruining others. Its just a simple fact.

Ernie15
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I dont like the french


I'm glad one person is brave enough to shout out what everyone thinks of them. *french laugh*

Honestly on this site the French probably don't even like the French.


Hey, don't forget that they invented French bread. They've contributed to our world. So thank them. *french laugh*
FloydTC
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it sounds like some russian is running france. thats the problem.

Drace
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it sounds like some russian is running france. thats the problem.


lol
Calm
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Mhh...Is this discussion about capitalism or about the French?

What Nicolas Sarkozy criticises here is not the principle behind capitalism, but rather the unacceptable behaviour that the markets showed after layers upon layers of deregulation.
Full quote from the Daily telegraph is here:

Mr Lee followed Mr Sarkozy who said globalisation had "skidded out of control" and lashed out at the "indecent" pay in the finance industry.

"President Obama is right when he says that banks must be dissuaded from engaging in proprietary speculation or financing speculative funds," Mr Sarkozy said on Wednesday night.

"From the moment we accepted the idea that the market was always right, and that no other opposing factors need be taken into account, globalisation skidded out of control."

Mr Sarkozy said: "There is indecent behaviour that will no longer be tolerated by public opinion in any country in the world.

"There are excessive profits that will no longer be accepted because they are without common measure to the capacity to create wealth and jobs.

"There are remuneration packages that will no longer be tolerated because they bear no relationship to merit."

Mr Sarkozy said it was "morally indefensible" for people who destroy jobs and wealth to earn a lot of money.


He does not, in any way, question capitalism in itself but rather the chaos that followed market deregulations.


Now, on the question of the French:
1. We do not have "riots" because of the taxes we have to pay.
2. Sarkozy's father is indeed not French but Hungarian, but we could have the same sort of comment on Barack Hussein Obama after all...
3. French bread is great
BlackMath
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http://mentaldimensions.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/statue-of-liberty.jpg
LOL, AMERICA MADE THIS

Bloodscum
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[quote]LOL, AMERICA MADE THIS [quote]

errr.... A French person did, actually.

Bloodscum
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argh messed up that one.....

Calm
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LOL, AMERICA MADE THIS


May I ask what this has to do with our present topic?
Or are you trying to tell me that a monument offered in 1886 by the French to the American is somehow related to Pdt. Sarkozy's recent discourse? ^^
BlackMath
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errr.... A French person did, actually.

May I ask what this has to do with our present topic?
Or are you trying to tell me that a monument offered in 1886 by the French to the American is somehow related to Pdt. Sarkozy's recent discourse? ^^

It was more of a response to Ernie15. Quoting him would have made more sense, but I thought it wouldn't be as funny.

Anyway, heres some French inventions...
Bourdon Tube Pressure Gauge
Braille
Altimeter
Conte Pencils
Diesel Engine
Scuba Equipment
The Daguerreotype
The First Seaplane
The Guillotine
Stethoscope
Hot Air Balloon
Electroscope
Digital Calculator
Pasteurization
Germ Theory of Disease
Dynamometer
The Bikini
Parachutes
Sewing Machine
The Battery
The Bicycle
Cassegrain telescope
electric iron
Mayonnaise
The Metric System
Rayon
Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope
Cabaret
Chronophotography
Cinema
Photography
The discovery of Actinium, Appertization, Beryllium, Chromium, Europium, Fluorine, Francium, Gallium, Polonium, Radium...
Viscose
Bleach
Photovoltaic effect
Arithmometer
Antibiotics
Blood transfusion
Cataract surgery
Face transplant
Ligature of arteries
Rabies vaccine
Stethoscope
Air brake
Artificial cement
Bayonet
Canning
Coffee percolator
Coherer
Collotype process
Daguerreotype
Discovery of natural rubber/latex
Dry cell battery
Electrometer
Flax spinning frame
Foucault pendulum
Fresnel lens
Guillotine
Hydraulic Shock absorber
Inflatable tyres for cars
Steam injector
International Olympic Committee
Jacquard loom
Letterbox
Loppers
Margarine
Modern automobile drum brake
Modern safe
New born incubator
Optical Telegraph
Photolithography
Power transformer
Praxinoscope
Discovery of Radioactivity
Raincoat
Réaumur scale
Reinforced concrete
Roberval Balance
Smart Card
Smokeless white powder
Steam digester
Transmission chain
Trash can
Aerostat
Airplane
Airship
Moped
Steamboat
Steam driven Car
Taxi

Awesome. Now, lets count American inventions.
Cheeseburger.

Not very good comparison, to be honest.
Drace
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How the hell did this turn into a French nationalism thread?

BlackMath
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It didn't. I was just pointing out that Ernie is ignorant as hell.
If you're going to hate on a nation, than use real reasons instead of making stuff up on the top of your head. It just makes you look ignorant.

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Airplane


American.

As for the topic, he can criticize it all he wants. Nothing is going to happen about it.

It needs a little bit of vital regulation, whereas it needs deregulation in non vital areas.

Our current system is suffering a double blow from the two, with very little useful regulating or deregulating.
Ernie15
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I was just pointing out that Ernie is ignorant as hell.


As true as that may be, those Frenches still haven't convinced me that they are worth liking.

As for the inventions, well, let's just say you repeated a few of them. Cheating 420 appleknocker!
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