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so handy caped people aren't true citizens by that description right? the army wont allow them to serve so they aren't citizens, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO SERVE IN THE ARMY, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. it is there choice to do whatever they feel best and if they think no gays would be easier than the hassles they think will come from it is is there call, the army isn't there to be friendly and tolerant, blind people can't join and people aren't com planing about that, there are no rights as an American to be in the army and that's that.

That's a bad example, blindness and being handicapped have nothing to do with being gay. Gays are technically fully functional.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

From the Declaration of Independence. Wouldn't it be hypocritical if gays were prevented from serving in the military? They aren't equal to the rest of us. Also, we would be taking away their "unalienable Rights"including the pursuit of happiness, if being in the military makes them happy.

From the Declaration of Independence. Wouldn't it be hypocritical if gays were prevented from serving in the military? They aren't equal to the rest of us. Also, we would be taking away their "unalienable Rights"including the pursuit of happiness, if being in the military makes them happy.

hahaha, if killing people makes me happy and the gov. says no are they infringing on my right, NO. bad argument any way you look at it they have no right in joining the army, the end, it is the GOV. choice. It doesn't matter ig there equal or not, the military says they aren't disciplined enough to friken bed, it is not ur right to join.

Serving their country makes some people happy, although I don't get it.

Anyway, I never said it wasn't the government's choice, I'm just saying that it's hypocritical.

It doesn't matter ig there equal or not,

That is one of the most ignorant statements I have seen in a while.
Of course it matters. America is supposedly based on equality.

Thats not what he said at all, if you read it at all he said any generic flaws that could mean anything not being in good shape,unable to fire a gun,etc

That's pretty much what he was implying. Except he meant being gay meant their genes are are flawed and leave to this type of things.

He didn't say any Gay flaws,

You don't have to type the exact phrase to say it.

How is that unrealistic?Would you like to take a shower with a guy you know is openly gay?That dosn't mean you wouldn't trust him with your life.Just think of it this way if you were a roomate with someone and then they tell you that they're gay, would you want to live them any more?

It's quite unrealistic. Just because their gay doesn't mean they want you. It just means they have a different preference based on sexuality. I have roomed with someone who is gay, and I was open to it. Most people are. I would love to share a dorm with him again.

I wouldn't want to shower with a secretly gay guy either...

Do you actually think a gay guy would be interested in you? Just because their gay doesn't mean they want you.

Stop harassing me for calling gays a race, dam it was an accident, get over it.

Thats your problem, you did it. You fucking cunt.

so handy caped people aren't true citizens by that description right? the army wont allow them to serve so they aren't citizens, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO SERVE IN THE ARMY, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. it is there choice to do whatever they feel best and if they think no gays would be easier than the hassles they think will come from it is is there call, the army isn't there to be friendly and tolerant, blind people can't join and people aren't com planing about that, there are no rights as an American to be in the army and that's that.

You need to quit posting until you learn how to spell. Also, why are you comparing being gay to being disabled? It's totally different. Homosexual people are fully abled to do anything a straight person can, even more in most instances

hahaha, if killing people makes me happy and the gov. says no are they infringing on my right, NO. bad argument any way you look at it they have no right in joining the army, the end, it is the GOV. choice. It doesn't matter ig there equal or not, the military says they aren't disciplined enough to friken bed, it is not ur right to join.

So due to their sexual preference they should have equal rights and equal opportunities? That's an ignorant bious statement. They aren't disciplined? That makes no sense at all. How is it not their right to join. People like you are the ones that shouldn't be allowed to be in the army or even living. You should loath yourself for just thinking the way you do.

America is supposedly based on equality.

Look you said it perfectly supposedly. Due to incompetent people like the kid above you, equal rights aren't carried out to their fullest.

Don't ASK Don't TELL

hey someone found out my motto. and they made a thread about it!

it's like announcing you're a member of the KKK, or part of a certain religion.
prejudices get in the way.

I haven't studied the KKK to highly but I believe that is when you openly hate blacks and want them to die or you want to kill them. How does that have to do with admitting your gay, homosexuality is loving men and has nothing to do with hate or killing anyone as the KKK does.

Do you actually think a gay guy would be interested in you? Just because their gay doesn't mean they want you.

No, I know they aren't, it'd just be too uncomfortable for my liking, if they were open showers.
It's a bit like showering with the opposite gender, but you're right.

It's a bit like showering with the opposite gender

only with gay guys, youre the one running away.

No, I know they aren't, it'd just be too uncomfortable for my liking, if they were open showers.
It's a bit like showering with the opposite gender, but you're right.

Showering in the open with other people is going to be uncomfortable for everybody. It is uncomfortable for both gay and straight men. No likes or wants to strip naked and shower with other people in mass numbers. The first time might be awkward, but you will get use to it. Its sad that Homophobes, like you, are unable to understand other people.

I highly doubt that the military will get a lot of shower rape charges. Because the military enforces discipline.

I haven't studied the KKK to highly but I believe that is when you openly hate blacks and want them to die or you want to kill them.

It wasn't just blacks. They focused on all minorities. They didn't just want them to die, they wanted them to suffer. (For their actions, supposedly.)

No, I know they aren't, it'd just be too uncomfortable for my liking, if they were open showers.
It's a bit like showering with the opposite gender, but you're right.

Lol, I thought I was stating that to tom. How is it like showering with the opposite sex? Gay guys have all the parts straight guys have.

Showering in the open with other people is going to be uncomfortable for everybody. It is uncomfortable for both gay and straight men. No likes or wants to strip naked and shower with other people in mass numbers. The first time might be awkward, but you will get use to it. Its sad that Homophobes, like you, are unable to understand other people.

I know it's uncomfortable for everyone, I believe I said that a page back?

And I wouldn't consider myself a Homophobe, I thought I was just defending gays and their rights?

How is it like showering with the opposite sex? Gay guys have all the parts straight guys have.

With someone you don't really know, I assume it would be akward.

And that's true, I guess it's just uncomfortable whether they're straight or gay.
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With someone you don't really know, I assume it would be akward.
And that's true, I guess it's just uncomfortable whether they're straight or gay.
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Okay, I think everyone has that feeling when they take a shower in public.

so handy caped people aren't true citizens by that description right? the army wont allow them to serve so they aren't citizens,

Handicapped people have a physical reason for not being able to serve. Gay people are not allowed to serve due to their sexuality. That is a big difference.

so handy caped people aren't true citizens by that description right?

Due to their physical disabilities they aren't in the army. That's alot different than being homosexual. Preference and a disability are totally different.