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padsave17
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Hi All,

Are there any more amature astronomers out there? I'm one and love it! I belong to the Raleigh Astronomrs Club here in North Carolina as well.
Looking for anyone else who wants to chat and post about what's "out there".

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TexanProvo
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I'm not really an astronomer in any real definition of the word though I am taking introduction to steller astronomy at the moment. Getting a 72 out of 70 so I'm not proving myself a complete idiot. So, what "out there" do you want to talk about, composition of stars, distances between objects in space, possibility of alien life, mining opportunities on Mars and Venus, etc.?

padsave17
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I'm up for whatever. Steller Astronomy talks about a chance for complex life. What's your take?

TexanProvo
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I think there is a very high, near definite, possibility of life on other planets, especially other galaxies. Most would be basically bacteria and things like that though I do believe there are other complex organisims out there. Some might even be intelligent and begining space exploration, most likely on a primitive level compaired to what scifi has told us but still.
What I wonder is if there is any Earth like life out there, a human like species or dog like for example, did what evolve on Earth also evolve on another planet some unimaginable distance away, that's something I'd like to know though I doubt we'll know in the next few centuries, let alone my time, but who knows what advances will be made in the coming years.

padsave17
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I totally agree. I believe that where there is life, it would be single celled or similar. I believe that Scifi is exactly that, but I haven't ruled out the possibility of the invention of a warp drive-type of engine in the future to accelerate our own Space travel capabilities.

TexanProvo
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The thing is, we truley don't know what is possible. At one point in time, people believed it was impossible to go faster than sound, couldn't be done, but now we've more than tripled that speed. Now, we see it as the speed of light is an impossible barrior and that shall one day be broken. Then it will probably be demensional travel and then something else, most if not all barriors will eventually be overcome.
On the question of life, we truley don't know. The universe truley has an infinite amount of possibilities and for all we know another World War II could be being fought on some distant planet as we speak. For all we know there could be united solar systems and intergalactic wars probably fought over the same things we fight over today. For all we know there could be organisims out there that speak a language similar to english, just about anything is possible.
Now, here's a question I wonder about. What caused all this, the universe. We cite the big bang but what was before and if there was just a giant ball of matter, what created that. It all had to come from somewhere, but that's the ultimate question really, what came before, a history we will most likely never know. But, for all we know there was life even before the big bang, maybe there was nothing, but what created that matter. I think time stands in the way of our understanding, but I also don't think we truley even understand that. Your thoughts?

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I think there is a very high, near definite, possibility of life on other planets, especially other galaxies. Most would be basically bacteria and things like that though I do believe there are other complex organisims out there. Some might even be intelligent and begining space exploration, most likely on a primitive level compaired to what scifi has told us but still.


I do not think there is any extra-terrestrial life nearby, Fermi Paradox has some very strong arguments and has a conclusion that I agree with. There is lack of evidence supporting domestic intelligent life forms which leads me to believe there are no alien civilizations close to Earth. Bacteria may have been found but according to me there are only going to be three or four considerably intelligent races in our galaxy (considerably meaning they have the ability to communicate in understandable tongue and also invented interstellar methods of transport).

What I wonder is if there is any Earth like life out there, a human like species or dog like for example


If we suppose the Universe is infinite which is an accepted cosmological model, then it is definite. However, if you believe in cosmological theories like the Big Bang the chances are a lot smaller.

warp drive-type


If I understand your definition of 'Warp Drive' correctly, then that form of engine is theoretically possible and has been considered by scientists. How we'd go about engineering and constructing such a device is another matter entirely, and one that will not be solved in our lifetimes, or so I'd expect.

What caused all this, the universe. We cite the big bang but what was before and if there was just a giant ball of matter, what created that.


It's a good point and the reason why I refuse to accept Creationism, the Big Bang, or even Inflation. Kalam Cosmological Argument must be true according to me, but if any of these cosmological theories concerning the creation of the Universe are true then nothing needs a cause thus raising the question why does the Universe need a cause? That's a paradox, and it annoys me. Currently I feel as if I can't accept that the Universe is real, but I know that is false.

I'm not really an astronomer, to answer the very first question, I am just deeply interested in cosmology and space.
padsave17
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What caused all this, the universe


You know, we have relics and fossils from long ago, but in the "creation" of the Universe I think that the evidence is long gone. I don't think that we will ever know, for sure, exactly how everything was formed. We'll just have to live with speculation. I just think too much time has gone by to know for sur but it is fun trying to figure it out! LOL!!
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considerably meaning they have the ability to communicate in understandable tongue and also invented interstellar methods of transport).


The only issue that I see with your comment, respectfully, is that the Human Race created our speach and ways of communicating. We can't expect any form of life to be able to communicate with us on our level or us to thiers.
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I have looked at stars, twice. Does that count as an astronmer?

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