ForumsWEPRAre Demons, Ghosts, or Angels real?

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Jerrbear65
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I don't believe Deomons, Ghosts, or Angels are real. There is no proof what so ever if any one can find me proof or a link to the evidence that they are real plz show me.

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314d1
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Say God doesn't exist? NOW YOU'VE GONE TO FAR!!!


Even suggesting it as a possibility will get your head cut off...
Qttoza
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@ OP
The belief in ghost demons and angels in limited by the person and their views. I know of about three people who i am great friends with who have had "encounters" with spirits. All plausible yes.

The first few post seemed right, It is faith. you believe or not.

314d1
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The belief in ghost demons and angels in limited by the person and their views. I know of about three people who i am great friends with who have had "encounters" with spirits. All plausible yes.

The first few post seemed right, It is faith. you believe or not.


The belief differs, the truth does not. Having faith in Santa Clause does not effect his existence, no matter how many encounters the kids have. All plausible? Not in the least. The very notion of any kind of spirit is in no way plausibly, even less so an encounter with them.
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Before discussing this question (Are Demons, Ghosts, or Angels real?), I want to ask if this question can be and shall be answered by humans.

As 314d1 said, having faith in Santa Claus does not effect his existence. Furthermore, you would still have to eat your meal if you concluded that "our everyday meals are not real". By this, I deem this question impractical.

Then, demons, ghosts, and angels are out of humans' reach (if they did exist) and thus we cannot and will not have any interaction with them. Therefore, this question and discussions about it won't yield anything which would benefit anyone or anything.

Finally, what can we do to prove that they do exist (or do not exist)? Nothing at all apart of mental speculations. Therefore, we will not reach a unanimous answer. Even if we did get an answer, we wouldn't know if the answer is right.

To conclude, this question is inadequate for human to discuss and answer. They or other higher beings revealing their existence has a higher chance than we humans finding the true answer.

314d1
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Then, demons, ghosts, and angels are out of humans' reach (if they did exist) and thus we cannot and will not have any interaction with them. Therefore, this question and discussions about it won't yield anything which would benefit anyone or anything.


First off, the people making the claims have the burden of proof on themselves. If you saw a ghost, prove it. Second, you can't disprove something that doesn't have any proof to begin with. Finally, we may not be able to disprove them directly but we can disprove there physical effects.

Finally, what can we do to prove that they do exist (or do not exist)? Nothing at all apart of mental speculations. Therefore, we will not reach a unanimous answer. Even if we did get an answer, we wouldn't know if the answer is right.


I don't know, how about actually doing something they are said to be able to do? How about lifting up a brick long enough for scientists to be able to thoroughly research it, or spelling out "WE EXIST!" with stars?

To conclude, this question is inadequate for human to discuss and answer. They or other higher beings revealing their existence has a higher chance than we humans finding the true answer.


The true answer is that there are no higher beings, thus they will never show themselves. Why would there be a necessity of higher beings? How would they be formed? What makes them "Higher" or gives them there power? Inserting these spirits were none are needed brings up more questions than answers, and the answers it gives are incredibly sketchy and undeserving of even consideration.
AircraftCarrier
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First off, the people making the claims have the burden of proof on themselves. If you saw a ghost, prove it. Second, you can't disprove something that doesn't have any proof to begin with. Finally, we may not be able to disprove them directly but we can disprove there physical effects.

But we can't catch a demon in a jar, can you? Also, I am not to disprove the existence of demons etc. (I think it cannot be proved nor disproved), but to disapprove the topic we're talking about.
I don't know, how about actually doing something they are said to be able to do? How about lifting up a brick long enough for scientists to be able to thoroughly research it, or spelling out "WE EXIST!" with stars?

Indeed. But there's already people who are doing it.

The true answer is that there are no higher beings, thus they will never show themselves. Why would there be a necessity of higher beings? How would they be formed? What makes them "Higher" or gives them there power? Inserting these spirits were none are needed brings up more questions than answers, and the answers it gives are incredibly sketchy and undeserving of even consideration.

Replace the "higher beings" with "demons etc." and that will be my stance.
314d1
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But we can't catch a demon in a jar, can you? Also, I am not to disprove the existence of demons etc. (I think it cannot be proved nor disproved), but to disapprove the topic we're talking about.


That is because they don't exist. Its the same reason why we have never observed a unicorn in a cage.

Indeed. But there's already people who are doing it.


*Looks up at the sky* Nope, no words. And I mean actual, skeptical, scientists, not just some ghost team trying to hoax the world.
AircraftCarrier
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That is because they don't exist. Its the same reason why we have never observed a unicorn in a cage.

Exactly.
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Then, demons, ghosts, and angels are out of humans' reach (if they did exist) and thus we cannot and will not have any interaction with them. Therefore, this question and discussions about it won't yield anything which would benefit anyone or anything.


The point is people do believe these things even though there is no proof. Here we can then ask them why they believe in such things. While unlikely, perhaps we are wrong and they really do have proof. If so I would sure like to hear it. However that doesn't mean I will just take it at face value, it will get scrutinized.

That is the point of the question and discussing them. It's to examine what we know or think we know opening allowing fro multiple view points to be brought forth.
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Ghosts exist according to me. The other one I do not know it about two I did not see.
One of my friends already 3x a shade visited it monster! And did not dream this!

TeAReDViiRuS
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It depends on whether or not if you believe in them.

Avorne
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I'm afraid that's not quite right - we don't live in a world where anthropomorphic personifications are magically given sentience and physical form and so belief has no effect on whether they exist or not.

halogunner
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you gotsta believe in something

Avorne
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No you don't - At leanether the supernatural and superstitious stuff.

Efan
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so why even bother posting this thread?

it is called exercising your brain through knowledge sharing and debate.
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