Since I have been moderating the "Metal Bands World Cup" with a lot of fun, it gave me an idea...
Why not do the same for the 'Classic Rock Bands' from all over the world?!
So, with credits to Agent_AAS for giving me the idea, here it is!!!
Ladieeeeeeees aaaaaaaaaaand gentlemeeeeeeeeen, we proudly present to you, the
_______________________________________________________________________ ### CLASSIC ROCK BANDS WORLD CUP !!! ### _______________________________________________________________________ The format of this World Cup for Classical Rock Bands is based upon the organisation schematics of the Soccer World Cup, same as the "Metal Bands World Cup" was made. It has the same rules as the Soccer Cup in terms of proceeding through, but it will follow a few rules of its own too. To elaborate the >binding rules< for this competition:
# The Group stage: -There will be 8 different groups presented in the thread, one at a time, and each group will be consisting of 5 Classical Rock Bands that will be pre-selected by me or one of the co-mods. -Every user of Armor Games has the power to give one point with one vote for one band only. So you only get to vote for one band in a group, no double voting for a single band or voting for more than one band per group. No exceptions will be made in this matter. -When one of the bands in a particular group reaches the 10 points limit, the voting for that group is over and that group will be closed for voting by me or one of the co-mods. Both the 'group winner' and the 'runner up' band will proceed to the knockout stage of this World Cup. -If two bands will reach the 10 points limit at the same time in a group, the band that reached the 10 points limit first, will automatically be declared 'group winner' and the band that reached the 10 points limit secondly, will automatically be declared 'runner up'. This rule also applies for the second place in the group. If two bands reach a similar point count for second place at the same time, the band reaching this point count first, will then automatically be declared 'runner up'. Remaining bands will be eliminated of the competition. Again, no discussions about the outcome are allowed, should this situation occur in a group.
The Knockout Stage: -After completing the Group stage, the 'group winner' of the first group will be up against the 'runner up' of the second group. The 'group winner' of the second group will be up against the 'runner up' of the first group. This scedule will be followed for the rest, to clarify: #1 Group A vs. #2 Group B (Winning band is called 'Winner I' #1 Group B vs. #2 Group A (Winning band is called 'Winner II' #1 Group C vs. #2 Group D (Winning band is called 'Winner III' #1 Group D vs. #2 Group C (Winning band is called 'Winner IV' #1 Group E vs. #2 Group F (Winning band is called 'Winner V' #1 Group F vs. #2 Group E (Winning band is called 'Winner VI' #1 Group G vs. #2 Group H (Winning band is called 'Winner VII' #1 Group H vs. #2 Group G (Winning band is called 'Winner VIII' -Like in the famous 'Battle of the Bands thread', you (again) get to vote once for one band only. -When one of the bands in this knockout battle reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the match and will proceed to the next stage in the competition. The 1/4 Finals: -The next stage, the 1/4 finals, will be held in this order: # Winner I vs. Winner V # Winner II vs. Winner VI # Winner III vs. Winner VII # Winner IV vs. Winner VIII -When one of the bands in these 1/4 final battles reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the match and will proceed to the next stage in the competition. The Semi Finals: -The semi finals will be held in the order of: # Winner I/V vs. Winner II/VI # Winner III/VII vs. Winner IV/VIII -When one of the bands in these Semi Finals battles reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the match and will proceed to the next stage in the competition. The 'Shadow Final': -A number three and four is decided in a match between both 'losing' bands from the semi finals. Again, the ranking of third and fourth place in this Final is decided upon the band that reaches the 10 points limit first. The Final match: -The Final match is held between both winning bands from the semi finals. -When one of the bands in the Final reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the competition and is crowned The 'CRBWC' Champion 2010. -The remaining band is ranked #2 in this competition. # Further rules for this competition: -You can only vote once per group and only once per knockout battle -You are obligated to give a good reasoning on why you choose the band to get your vote. ('They are the best' or 'I like them' is not accepted as a reasoning.) -There will be NO playoffs held in this competition. -You don't get to complain when 'your band' is eliminated from the competition. -Swearing and obscene language is not tolerated. Always respect the opinion(s) of the other users participating in this thread, even if you disagree on their reasoning. -The 'Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations' and the 'Battle of the ... Thread Rules' are to be followed for this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'. They will be referred to when needed. You can find them here: Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations Battle of the ... Thread Rules -'CRBWC'-Moderators: Besides me, there will be 2 persons who will help me moderate this thread. You can always ask us for help in this thread: MrDayCee goumas13 Agent_AAS >>> Attention! Official AG Administrators and Moderators will always have a binding word!<<< I hope the AG users will like and participate in this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'! So... ENJOY!!!
@ wajor59 : To elaborate on the choices I've made for bands to compete in the 'CRBWC'... First of all, it's been pretty darn difficult to make the choices, since being a rock fanatic seems to cloud my judgement in this matter, I've made a few basic ground rules for the bands to be able to find my way through the huge pile of excellent music!
So to make it easier, I thought of these rules:
# Popularity of the band (then and now) worldwide: it has to be a band that's known all over the world (not just in America, Asia or Europe) and now still has people going "Hey, listen! Remember?" when they hear one of their songs...
# They should have had at least more than one hit song worldwide: there are some great rock bands that had only one song (usually a huge hit worlwide), but then that was it... so I had to exclude those from this competition...
# They have to be actual bands: with this I mean not just rock singers with a background band, that would create a problem and unneeded discussion in this competition... Allthough... I actually HAD to make one exception for that rule... but you will see it when he/she comes along in a group... don't hate me for it when you see it!
# They have to be a band that made a real contribution to the history of Rock music: with this I mean either with a lot of great rock songs, with a change/addition to the style/genre of Rock music or with inspiring current rock bands in their quest to stardome...
I hope this cleares some of the 'fog' around 'why I didn't pick this or that band'... =)
Where is Marshall Tucker Band? The Band? Bob Dylan?
@ asherlee : Welcome! Ahm... with this question you exposed one more rule I forgot to mention in the post above directed to wajor59! This being:
# They have to play classic rock music: with this I mean not just one or two songs being in a rock music style, but sticking to the rock genre completely as their own style of music... So this rules out 'Bob Dylan'. As for "The Band", they make more of a Blues Rock style of music, somehow this is not really fitting into this classic rock competition. And 'Marshal Tucker Band' hasn't been that popular here in Europe or in Asia like they were in America at that time, so they're not known worldwide.
Isn't that a country group? I've only heard one of their songs, and it was a country song, so I assume they weren't quite in the same genre as these other groups.
Bob Dylan?
Bob Dylan is Bob Dylan. He isn't a band, though. He may have a backing band, but he himself would not be considered a "band".
Am I seriously the only one who voted for the Beatles?
I vote The Beatles, because they are one of the most diverse rock groups of all-time, they actually put effort into their lyrics, and they come from Liverpool.
Creating genres for music is not all that objective. It is in some aspects. But classic rock is a blanket term. I think in combination of some of your rules and your categorizing skills are leaving out a lot.
I agree partially with that Asherlee, since I have to admit I like the 80's glam-, hard- and symphonic rock the most, I did try to include as much bands as possible with a variety of sorts 'under the classic rock blanket'... =)
I was bound to dissapoint some people with leaving out several bands they would like very much... that's always a viable risk in this sort of thing! :/
But like I stated, I tried to make several basic ground rules to have a guiding line on what bands to pick and what not...
I still hope you will participate in the 'CRBWC' though... the more, the merrier! =D
You can't really compare Queen to the Beatles. They were in completely different eras, and their music sounds nothing alike. These battles would be more popular if all of the bands were from the same era and genre.
The Beatles. Definitely. They should win this entire competition. Their influence, their songwriting, their legacy, their live performances... The Beatles were the greatest rock 'n' roll band ever. They had great solo careers too.
@ Ernie15 : I completely understand what you mean with this, but I had to put the bands in some sort of categorised groups, or the whole group stage would have been a random collection of bands... imagine a group with f.i. The Beatles and Bon Jovi combined, how would those two compare? That was something to be avoided and this seemed to be the best way to do that!
Now on with the vote count... new score with Peek's vote for the Beatles shows a tie:
Group E: "The Oldies II"
- The Beatles - 3 - Queen - 3 - Rolling Stones - 1 - C.C.R. (Creedence Clearwater Revival) - 1 - Golden Earring - 0
Seems like the Rolling Stones and C.C.R. are falling behind! Who wants to help them pick it up again and battle the leaders? =D
