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314d1
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"I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the united states of America, and to the FREAKING REPUBLIC for which it stands..."

Why do so many people call America a democracy? It is made as a republic, even stated in our pledge, yet some people, including past presidents, call it a democracy. Many presidents even sought out to "spread democracy and stop communism". Isn't that hippocratic, considering we are a republic?

On a side note: Why do so many people hate communism? It is good in theory, though its execution is usually flawed. America even went to war with Vietnam for, among other reasons, the "Domino effect" in an attempt to stop the spread of communism. Once more, hipocratic..

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[url=http://www.williampmeyers.org/republic.html]

Go there. It's a good one.

thepossum
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Hope this works.

http://www.williampmeyers.org/republic.html

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[link=http://www.williampmeyers.org/republic[link]

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I scanned through the previous posts and noticed that no one had pointed out that America isn't not the actual form of a democracy or a direct democracy we have an altered form it known as representative democracy.

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On a side note: Why do so many people hate communism? It is good in theory, though its execution is usually flawed.


All systems are good on paper, just fail in the real world for some reason or another. No system is best, and just as many people hate capitalism as do communism, theocracy, anarchy, or whatever other system happens to pop in someones head.

Anyways, we're a democratic republic. Both systems rely on majority rule, so either way they fail

If there are three hundred million people in a country, and one hundred and fifty one million have rule over everyone else, something has clearly gone astray.
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If there are three hundred million people in a country, and one hundred and fifty one million have rule over everyone else, something has clearly gone astray.


Yes, its much better to have about a 1000 people rule over 300 million instead. That makes perfect sense.

And "150 million people having rule over everyone else" isn't a correct reflection of what democracy is.
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And if this Republic is truly democratic in that it is actually representative of the people's will, then the same problem of "majority vs minority" applies. Because if the majority of people want a Nazi to be their president, the minority are still going to suffer. So if this "Representative democracy" gives what it promises, it still has the same supposed problem of "direct democracy".

Your only way of solving such a problem is by eliminating democracy all together.

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Why do so many people call America a democracy?


Because America say they are a democracy. Which is pretty much
down to...

propaganda and propaganda.


America is a capitalist society, as is most of the western world.
EnterOrion
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And "150 million people having rule over everyone else" isn't a correct reflection of what democracy is.


It's a correct reflection of the western world.

Your only way of solving such a problem is by eliminating democracy all together.


Getting rid of it? No. Streamlining would be far more effective.

Yes, its much better to have about a 1000 people rule over 300 million instead. That makes perfect sense.


Ya, totally. Perfect sense indeed.

I'm not saying it can be fixed, all I'm saying is there is something wrong with it.
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It's a correct reflection of the western world.


The Western powers are best defined as direct democracies???

Getting rid of it? No. Streamlining would be far more effective


What's "steamlining"?

Ya, totally. Perfect sense indeed.

I'm not saying it can be fixed, all I'm saying is there is something wrong with it.


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Like people said before were a democratic republic and people hate communism because when you look at it limits your freedom(atleast in the recent communisms) and who wants less freedom.

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Why do so many people hate communism?

They teach them to.
What's "streamlining"?

I think it's something like organizing.

America is considered a Democracy, because the Government is exercised though elected representatives.
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America is considered a Democracy, because the government is exercised through elected representatives.

I'm pretty sure that's the definition of a Republic.

Why do so many people hate communism?


They teach them to.


True. But it may also have something to do with the fact that socialism has a history of never working. Also, such systems tend to take away the rights of the governed. One real flaw is that it provides no material incentive to work harder.
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I'm pretty sure that's the definition of a Republic.

Republic and democracy are similar.
The meaning of democracy, is "rule by the people". In this case the people rules through elected representatives.
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As Kyouzou pointed out,the USA is a Representative Democracy, that means, you choose somebody to rule the country every x years, then you go back home and don't care any more until next elections (note that most of the world does this). This democracy just happens to be set in the form of a Republic, which BTW is the purest form of democracy.

[quote]Why do so many people hate communism?

They teach them to[/quote]
Totally agreed. Maybe it has also something to do that, throughout history, whenever there has been a commmunist uprising there has alson been some idiot guy wanting to kill people, rule the country and screw things up. I'm still waiting for those people to stay at home next time it happens.
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