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ShadowShank696
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if a tree falls in the woods and nobodys around to hear it does it make a sound?

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samdawghomie
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seriously,

ummm no, duh *sarcasm*

Of course it does.

*lock*

WraithLord
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samdawghomie-----i agree with you

Gametesta
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Of course it makes a sound. Im not so sure if this is spam though.

2014631
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If a squirrel poops in the forest, and nobody's there to smell it, does it still smell bad?

YES!

pHacon
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Yep, and the sound of one hand clapping as the resounding smack of me slapping you.

Roadripper
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Of course it makes a sound. I don't how this is even question.

~RR~

knight_34
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If I slash you to pieces in the forest, killing you, and nobody sees, hears, or smells any evidence of it ever, does that mean you aren't dead and I never killed you?

If it does, that'd be sweet.

goumas13
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Sound is the sensation stimulated in the organs of hearing by such vibrations in the air or other medium.
According to this definition of sound (and if the tree did not fall so hard that it could be heard worldwide) there would be no sound.
There would be created a mechanical wave, but nobody would perceive it, therefore we would not have a sound.

knight_34
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I just remembered that this is a very debatable philosophical riddle of some sort.

Methinks I don't want to debate.

Holden012
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Yes of course it makes a sound . Even if nobody hears it still makes a sound.

Zega
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If nobody hears it, it does NOT make a sound.

leo99rules
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Went to the wrong place. Not philosophers here.

knight_34
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Exactly.

If you want real debate, put this in the WEPR.

DDX
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If you want real debate, put this in the WEPR.

or ask this question in real life.
Strop
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This entire debate is based upon the misunderstanding as to the definition of sound.

Sound is the sensation stimulated in the organs of hearing by such vibrations in the air or other medium.
According to this definition of sound (and if the tree did not fall so hard that it could be heard worldwide) there would be no sound.
There would be created a mechanical wave, but nobody would perceive it, therefore we would not have a sound.


Goumas is (almost) correct. Sound isn't the sensation, but rather the perception of the sensory stimuli i.e. it has been processed so that when we "hear" it we call it sound.

Of course I'm pretty sure that question was asked well before this formal definition.

Note that this question isn't out of place in the tavern, though as pointed out the people more likely to be interested in answering it frequent the WEPR forum. I'm going to lock the thread this time around, but if the OP wants to recreate the thread in the WEPR they're welcome to do so. My advice would be to then include some discussion on Zen school of thought.
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