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Octugen
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What will be our Future and Fate during our time and or beyond that? Will we become strong and intellectual beings, will we be creating wonders in technology and exploring the many aspects of the universe?
Will we wage another war which society will crumble? Will a natural disaster consume all life on Earth? Or will Alien-Facehumping zombies eat our brains? I'd like to hear your opinions.

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MRWalker82
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I'm Australian, which explains a lot about my commentary on this issue


By that you mean that you live in a country where education is still valued political correctness can still take a back burner to intellectual thought? I say that because most of the aussies I talk to online seem very intelligent and well mannered, which is a stark contrast to many of the Americans of the same age groups and even educational levels.
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By that you mean that you live in a country where education is still valued political correctness can still take a back burner to intellectual thought?


lol no, I wouldn't even be that flattering of my fellow countrymen, that would be vaguely un-Australian. I mean, we're hardly that well-mannered.

What I meant was this country's historical roots, as a "convict nation", a true product of colonialism.
MRWalker82
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Well you have a good point there. Obviously I don't live there so I don't get to see a large cross section of the populace, however I have noticed that the majority I have talked to online are good people with a decent head about them. Perhaps I am simply more cynical of my own countrymen because I have to deal with them on a regular basis. Sort of the "grass is greener on the other side" effect.

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My opinion on all of this is similar to Strop's. We will survive somehow, but we aren't starting any time soon, unless we HAVE to start any time soon. I honestly have no clue when we will have to move on, maybe it will be because we detect an asteroid on a collision course with Earth, or we have overpopulated and there isn't enough food, or we run out of fertile land, etc. etc.
I think at the rate we're going, we'll be able to colonize the moon and Mars within 50-120 years. I think if humans are to permanently leave Earth(which I highly doubt) we would have to find a planet similar to Earth (watery, temperate, with a similar atmosphere) from which we could base ourselves on. I could see this happening in 500-700 years. After a couple hundred years of colonizing and emigrating and such, we would be significantly different from Homo Sapiens Sapiens, but I don't think we'd altogether become a new species within 500-1000 generations. I find this assumption preposterous.

But the only way to accomplish any of this would be because we have to. We would absolutely NOT unite as a planet to accomplish something unless it would affect everyone. I think we all here agree that no matter how much unity and alliance there is, there will still be ignorance and hatred, there will still be those who lust for war and revenge and rebellion.

MRWalker82
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but I don't think we'd altogether become a new species within 500-1000 generations. I find this assumption preposterous.


Think of what a generation is. 20-30 years or so. So in 10,000-30,000 years evolution won't have changed us? Think of where we were just 10,000 years ago. How can you say that we won't be different? Especially if some cataclysmic or disastrous event forces it?
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Think of what a generation is. 20-30 years or so. So in 10,000-30,000 years evolution won't have changed us? Think of where we were just 10,000 years ago. How can you say that we won't be different? Especially if some cataclysmic or disastrous event forces it?


This depends entirely on what you mean by "changed". In terms of behaviour you could say that our selection criteria is changing all the time. However this is still largely speculative as the link between genetics and behaviour remains controversial.
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but if global worming cant get stopped humans must aband Earth and colosity another planet.

not necessarily. while global wafrming has already started, the earth will still remain inhabitable. but effects of global warming include:
rising sea levels
ice age?
unpredictable weather patterns
droughts
loss of farmland
drought
famine
war
starvation
loss of cities to rising sea
MRWalker82
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Global warming as it is now is simply a natural cycle of the earth's atmosphere. It isn't the end of the world and humans are not going to destroy the world by burning coal. That's just fear mongering and it uses scientific inferences and guess work to convince you all to buy hybrids and recycle. Read ALL the studies done before you jump on the 'omg global warming' train.

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In addition to that you have to remember that a lot of data input into the studies was false, hence the results were inaccurate to say the least. Also, I don't know how many people know this but it's not just earth that's having climate changes; our entire solar system is show signs of temperature increase.

MRWalker82
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It's not even global temperature increases, it's mainly fluctuations. Many areas of the earth are colder now than they were 30-50 years ago, while some are a bit warmer. You have to remember that our world is cyclical, as is everything else in our solar system. How arrogant of humans to think that we can ruin an entire planet. This planet will survive whatever we can do to it. It will kill us before we can even hurt it.

Kyouzou
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Arrogance in humans is neither a rare nor a surprising trait.


The issue is that the main areas where glaciers are diminishing such as Greenland, the effect isn't even caused by natural means. Soot from factories has apparently been carried over there and is embedded in the ice. Because of its quality it's absorbing more heat than normal and thus causing the ice to melt.

MRWalker82
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Yes but think of how long it's been since our last ice age. And prior to that the world was mostly tropical. Prior to that there was an ice age. Prior to that the world was mostly tropical. It's cyclic. We are still in a long term warming period, which will continue for thousands of years. Then we will begin another cooling period. That's just the cyclic nature of our environment. Sure we may have some small impact one way or another, but we are in no way capable of altering that cycle completely, short of launching every nuke we have at ourselves, and even then the earth will heal itself. We just won't be here to witness it.

Kyouzou
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Meh, there's always the odds, that we turn our selves into another Venus, the planet will repair itself but not in the image that we remember it in.

MRWalker82
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That is a possibility, and if we do manage to make some lasting change to our environment the earth surely won't be the same as it is now. However we are in the proper orbit of the sun to ensure that we are not cold enough to be an ice planet, or hot enough to be a scorching wasteland either. And barring some cataclysmic event we will remain that proper distance for many thousands of years to come.

Kyouzou
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Well there are several deep space comets heading towards our solar system, where their trajectory will take them we don't know.

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