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I like conversations that are ethically and morally charged. Then I thought about Gladiators, Rome's ancient combatants of death. I discussed this among some of my friends, and then thought this would be good fodder for the WEPR.

So the basic premise, is to send people already condemned to die (there are plenty of these), into gladiatorial matches, similar to Rome's model, albeit a little more modern. Quick, painful deaths, for all to watch and enjoy, or vomit, as the case may be. These wouldn't be anyone, and as I said, they would already be condemned to die for the crimes they've committed. Hand to hand, die in honor and bravery kind of bloodbaths. It would be great entertainment, for those who feel such requirement to watch them. For everyone else, there is always a corner to protest vainly on.

To put a note on it, they wouldn't have to fight. If they didn't want to fight, there is always a gurney ready for them.

So my question is this: Would it be a good idea, or bad? The ethics and morality are clearly missing from such a brutal sport, but these men are condemned. What difference does it make?

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Drace
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Yes, lets send humans back a few hundred years in social development.

But that would be awesome nonetheless o.O

SirNoobalot
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if they consented to it and weren't forced to, no.

althoug it allows for the more violent criminals to survive.

YAY LETS LET THE VIOLENT PEOPLE, WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONDEMNED TO DIE, BACK INTO SOCIETY FOR KILLING SOMEONE IN PUBLIC USING THEIR SKILLS!

it would be awesome, but there would be a global backlash, wherever it was, and humanitarians, conservatives, and idiots would all be waving massive red fags blocking out the sky in their numbers.

SirNoobalot
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if they consented to it and weren't forced to, no


sorry for double post, but make that a yes >.>
Drace
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YAY LETS LET THE VIOLENT PEOPLE, WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONDEMNED TO DIE, BACK INTO SOCIETY FOR KILLING SOMEONE IN PUBLIC USING THEIR SKILLS!


No no, we'd just release lions at the end of the match of course and then few RPG rounds if that doesn't work.

It'd still be cheaper then the conventional methods.
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Capital punishment is wrong, i would rather watch someone rot in a gaol cell for the rest of there lives. We are far to advanced to watch people kill each other for fun but with some of the shows on TV at the moment i wonder if this would be better.

Also there needs to be somesort of prize like the best fighter gets set free, this would encourge compititon and betting so the government could make some more blood money.

Drace
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Capital punishment is wrong, i would rather watch someone rot in a gaol cell for the rest of there lives.


Lol what? That's horrible. You're a horrible person.
SirNoobalot
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***s


flags >.>

oh and i just don't find it plausible in concept. using that pool of people is just giving people who don't deserve a second chance, a second chance. reminds me of 'death race', which was quite oviously a downgrade of society that allowed that.
SirNoobalot
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similar to Rome's model,


ok rome's model was quite terrible in everything. " ok, we captured you and perhaps took away your family, so now you fight for our amusement, and MAYBE we'll set you free." that is just terrible to be that person.
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I don't believe that capitol punishment is the answer to anything. An effect of my belief is that I completely disagree with this idea.

The ethics and morality are clearly missing from such a brutal sport, but these men are condemned. What difference does it make?

That is the exact reason why this is wrong (in my opinion). As soon as you try to justify the loss of basic human rights then you have picked a hole in your own argument. I understand that when a crime is committed that is horrible enough to deserve the death sentence in your country, they forfeit their right to live. But why are they being forced to fight for the possibility of life.
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ah morals shmorals let them kill each other the winner only gets life in prison w/ parole >.> and i believe in the death penalty and i would love to see modern gladiatorial matches

loss of basic human rights


ORLY? the guy who killed a whole family just for the fun of it still has rights? not in my opinion
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But why are they being forced to fight for the possibility of life.


They wont.
They will just fight for as long as they last, keep going on and on and on and on.
Not get released, that would be stupid..
Zaork
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ORLY? the guy who killed a whole family just for the fun of it still has rights? not in my opinion


You don't believe that they have the basic right to be human?

I shall briefly mention the inadequacy of the justice system as a whole.
The justice system is inadequate as a whole.
There are many innocent people being exonerated today. As a human being I cannot willingly send a person to death when there is still a chance that they may be innocent. All evidence is fallible.
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There are many innocent people being exonerated today. As a human being I cannot willingly send a person to death when there is still a chance that they may be innocent. All evidence is fallible.


ah yes ok I'll go tell the prisons to let out all death row prisoners they might go back to killing but so long as there is one who doesn't it'll be worth it
Zaork
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They will just fight for as long as they last, keep going on and on and on and on.

Can you justify the complete disregard for this person's mental functionality?

(If my last link didn't work, try this.)
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Zaork
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ah yes ok I'll go tell the prisons to let out all death row prisoners they might go back to killing but so long as there is one who doesn't it'll be worth it

You completely missed my point. I was trying to say that destroying a persons life is unacceptable if there is a reasonable chance that they are innocent.

(Darn my rubbish url skills.)
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