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Hypermnestra
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Okay, I'm just wondering, what point is there to having ArmorPoints(pun intended)? I mean...it encourages people to spam, right? The merit system causes several people to start whining for merits, it creates unnecessary extra work for the mods, and all you get for it is a new icon on your profile and a couple new armatars.
So, here's my question: Is it worth it?
I was wondering why the site doesn't just take the whole idea of AP and toss it in the wastebucket. Here are some of the cons and pros I've managed to come up with for different ways to get merits.

1. Rating a game
Positive: The idea is that people will be encouraged to give their opinion of a game.
Negative: As it is the quickest and easiest way to get AP and it can't be counted as spam no matter what, I think that this could be abused as a way to get quick and easy AP, without having put any thought into it or even played the game in question.

2. Commenting on a Game
Pros: It has been prophesied that someday, somewhere in the world, sometime in the future of Armorgames, someone will actually be smart enough, mature enough, and well-intentioned enough, to actually write a thoughtful comment using the commenting on a game system, intended to help the developer, and with no thought of a merit. However, until the prophesied Commenter of Justice arrives, we must deal with the cons...
Negative: Obviously, it is a reward for spam, spam, and yet more spam! No one actually uses the comments system to comment on a game with an intelligent, well-thought out review, without their goal being to get a merit! Therefore, the comments are so clogged up with spam, that we can't even find a useful review(reviewer's intentions notwithstanding).

3. Forum Posts
Positive: Obviously, rewarding people for forum posts is an alright idea, since most people spam it out in the game comments, being that they are worth more AP. However, people still use FPs as a way to get more APs, and the people who only care about actual, meaningful discussion in the forums, could care less about the points.
Negative: Well, rewarding someone with AP for posting at all is possibly a good idea, but there's always the threat of spam looming around the corner, and I've gotten the impression that the mods are slightly more lenient around here. If there's one 5-7 word post, it's ignored. If there's multiple spam posts in one thread, the thread is locked. There's not really any punishment for it. Ever.

4. Game Designing
Positive: This is an amazing idea. To reward someone for getting a game passed through is a good idea, and if you raise the bar for game standards, I think it's plausible that this could be the only way to get AP. Game designing is difficult and time consuming nearly all the time...so there's almost no way it can be abused.
Negative: Error. File Game-designing-negative, not found.

5.Merits
Positive: For those people who take the time to write out well-thought out reviews with the intention of helping the game designer improve the game, it is an excellent idea to reward them.
Negative: Whining, and mods having to dig through garbage to find gold. Nuff said.

In my personal opinion, there are a few options which can be done to improve the AP system:
A) Make it so that all thoughtful comments get a merit, regardless of which section they're in, however if you whine about the "merit" you're not getting, then you will be punished by losing all the merits you already have, and if you don't have a merit, then you can't get one for a certain amount of time.
B) Make it so that only designing a game can get you AP, and raise the bar for games submitted.
C) Remove the system in its entirety.
D) Make your own option.
This is just a thought I had, and there was a fatal combination going on; I was a nerd, I had an idea, and I was bored out of my mind. This is the finished product. So, this is just a few suggestions and reasons, everybody else, you're welcome to share your own and your thoughts on my ideas.
Tally Ho!(and no, I have absolutely no clue what that means. I know it has something to do with hunting...I think).

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ProfessorOak
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The very first even more so.


I agree. But too many people are asking me, "OMGWTFBBQ WHERE'D JOO FIND DAT ARMATAR I CAN'T FIND ETTTT!?!?!"
k4th3r1n3
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Too bad there's no post/comment tracker. Other than that, if it's a mass spammer, it's best to just warn and temp-ban and wait for the higher-ups.


You know how Youtube has an option of putting a "recent comments/ratings" section on a profile? If AG did that, minus the optional, that really would be helpful to mods by preventing a lot of spam/one-word comments...

That was a great pun. At least, everyone who has seen a can of SPAM in the supermarket...


I got the pun, so no one has tried spam here? I didn't realize how white-trashy I was until I was told that vienna sausages were "even trashier than spam." Then I said, "Well my dad always bought both when we camped on the river in the family's get-away shack in the marshes... Oh crap."
popopowerst
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I think that only the spammers should be locked from the thread, instead of locking the thread ( It took me 20 minutes to write out something on here that I was going to do, and one spam and the whole thing was deleted. REALLY?

Ernie15
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Because being a respected user and staple here on AG is too much to shoot for? Or adding meaningful comments to discussions on the forums?


I was referring to AP goals. Usually being a respected user doesn't correlate with AP goals.

Maybe I wasn't clear on that.
cipsas
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what armor points do...can you buy something whit them???

Armpit
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can you buy something whit them???


No. All they do is measure how much rating, commenting and forum posting you do, as well as how many games you've submitted that AG has accepted (if you're a developer) and how many merits you've received.
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