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WorstSniper
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When undercover investigators made their way onto Chinese fur farms, they found that many animals are still alive and struggling desperately when workers flip them onto their backs or hang them up by their legs or tails to skin them. When workers on these farms begin to cut the skin and fur from an animal's leg, the free limbs kick and writhe. Workers stomp on the necks and heads of animals who struggle too hard to allow a clean cut.

When the fur is finally peeled off over the animals' heads, their naked, bloody bodies are thrown onto a pile of those who have gone before them. Some are still alive, breathing in ragged gasps and blinking slowly. Some of the animals' hearts are still beating five to 10 minutes after they are skinned. One investigator recorded a skinned raccoon dog on the heap of carcasses who had enough strength to lift his bloodied head and stare into the camera.

Before they are skinned alive, animals are pulled from their cages and thrown to the ground; workers bludgeon them with metal rods or slam them on hard surfaces, causing broken bones and convulsions but not always immediate death. Animals watch helplessly as workers make their way down the row.


http://features.peta.org/ChineseFurFarms/index.asp (Link, not sure how the link thing works, just copy + paste on a tab/window.)


I think this is inhumane, and cruel. I couldn't last long while watching the video, it was too disturbing. Please, don't buy fur.
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WorstSniper
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So, any comments about these fur farms and cruelty?

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Well, its better than poaching wild ones...

Farming is at least safe for the native wild populations.

Its pretty gruesome, but aren't slaughter houses equally as revolting?

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I don't think they should farm dog fur - maybe just foxes and other non-important animals.

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I don't think they should farm dog fur - maybe just foxes and other non-important animals.


What makes dogs more important that foxes?
Avorne
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Dogs have long been considered companion animals - foxes have always been called 'vermin'.

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Sounds like a worst case scenario to me. Sure, I have to agree with that this is messed up and pretty cruel, but it doesn't happen everywhere: A lot of Americans see China run this way (A lot of outside Chinese people see it this way too). You also have to realize the reason they do this is because there is demand: People are buying animal fur STILL (After all the talk about us advancing). Someone has to supply it, and quickly.

I happen to know there was a dog kennel here that was so diseased and full of dogs they threw away puppy corpses in large trash bags every day. Stray dogs came sniffing...

Dogs have long been considered companion animals - foxes have always been called 'vermin'.


Because dogs have been domesticated and foxes have not, or what? That sounds pretty tough.
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I'd rather go naked than wear fur!

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Because dogs have been domesticated and foxes have not, or what? That sounds pretty tough.

I think it might have to do with the fact that foxes eat chickens ducks geese and other small livestock.
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I suspect that it's mostly because dogs have been domesticated. Foxes have always about on par with dingo's and hyenas in terms of popularity - they steal livestock and so are deemed a pest.

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Not sure on this but does taking fur from an animal harm them in anyway?
If it doesn't then I don't see the problem.

Dogs have long been considered companion animals - foxes have always been called 'vermin'.


But dogs and foxes are alike, when wild, they can both become vicious and get rabies and other diseases.
We just take care of dogs and ignore foxes, I'm sure if we swapped it around foxes could be pets too when trained
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I believe removing the fur removes most of the skin from the animal and to that domesticating fox thing I supppose we could but there are less uses for the small foxes compared to dogs. But I dont know for sure never seen a trained fox.

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This is kinda unfair, its like us wearing or using anything leather. we get meat sure, but they are bred to be killed. and if you were in china you would think this is ok, because you would detach your feelings to dogs and such as we do to cows

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A. Taking the animals fur involves killing it (removing the skin, sometimes while it's still alive).
B. Horses are slaughtered legally in a few countries - you can buy horsemeat sausages in some places.
C. If they were gonna eat the dogs then that'd be slightly better (again, many countries do eat dog) but it's just a waste, and a cruel one at that, to skin the animal while it's still alive and throw it's bloody half-dead body on a pile.

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A. common knowledge?
B. not around my point
C.i refer to the attchment the beleifs we grew up on

Avorne
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A. I wasn't replying to you
B. I wasn't replying to you
C. Fair enough but I was just pointing it out.

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