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cormyn
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In a nutshell, we don't know.

That should clear up everyone's questions, right? Good ...

As a development team and as a company, we know that the forums are extremely important to some of you, and we know that some of you have put a lot (!!!!) of effort into building up the community here, especially those who have written the more creative poetic stuff. C'mon, how many of you have > 5,000 posts, raise your hands. That amount of effort is *staggering*. Seriously, I think the highest post count I've seen was ~8400? Over 2.5 years, that'd be like 10 posts EVERY DAY since AG2 launched.

The effort of migrating that much data from AG2 to AG3 is almost as staggering, since the guy who wrote the AG2 forum software didn't make it terribly efficient, and the way we're linking accounts, etc., between the two systems might cause problems. Trying to migrate it to AG3 will be a pretty big job, and it will probably fall in my lap since I'm sorta the database guru around here, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's up to me whether I want to do it or not. If Dan says do it, I do it.

Whether we start over, and wipe everything, and build a new forum engine, or implement someone else's forum software, remains to be discussed internally because it's not a critical feature for us yet. That doesn't mean it's not important to us, it just means we have to get core features working like, y'know, logging in.

Will we migrate old posts into the new forum software? It depends whether we can find an easy way to make the old forum data compatible. Nothing's *impossible* but it's also not practical for us to spend development time (read: dollars) for us to spend a big amount of effort trying to sort stuff out so it's all perfect and pristine.

If we start over with forum posts, will we archive the old forums? Again, nothing's impossible, but I can't answer that right now.

What will happen to your armor points for forum posts? Well, since armor points are also up in the air regarding the same sort of "wipe vs migrate" discussions, I can't answer that question right now either.

Please direct people asking about the future of AG2 forums to this thread if they start asking questions in other forums/threads. I'll post updates to this thread as I have more information.

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Aeridani
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Why is this a big ball of junk?

Apart from the vulgarities, half baked answers and spam, I would like to point out that AG's more relevant thread on Occupy Wallstreet discussed economics as opposed to human rights. Throw in an edit button that allows the OP to shove in the news on the shooting and both issues get mixed up.

The shooting in itself is a different matter from discussing the economics behind the protests and hence warrant different more specialised threads to focus debates. Is that so hard to understand?


I understand your point. (or do I?)

But we still need an edit button.


I think this forum is one of the few in existence without an edit button. This place is like a dinosaur.
nichodemus
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I think this forum is one of the few in existence without an edit button. This place is like a dinosaur.


Just because it hasn't cottoned on to the major trends does not make it a dinosaur. Its tidy simplicity makes people think and ponder more before posting and having to rely on an edit button. Minimalistic has worked for the past 4 years.
Aeridani
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Just because it hasn't cottoned on to the major trends does not make it a dinosaur. Its tidy simplicity makes people think and ponder more before posting and having to rely on an edit button. Minimalistic has worked for the past 4 years.


Which also gives it big disadvantages.
benjaminio
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For an edit button, you wouldn't really change your post just because of a few spelling mistakes, and would probably read over what you write to make sure it says what you mean, so someone probably wouldn't need an edit button unless they were trolling or spamming.

Aeridani
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Goodness sakes! I'm outta these forums!

GhostOfMatrix
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so someone probably wouldn't need an edit button unless they were trolling or spamming.

...No

I occasionally make little mistakes in my posts, and I always read them a few times before I submit it, but somehow mistakes get through. And there are threads which would be good to have the opening post editable. Such as AMW threads, contest threads, stickied threads, etc. It shouldn't be allowed for those alone either, it's a good feature to have all around, and just because a few people will probably abuse it doesn't mean to mark off the idea.
Aeridani
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I occasionally make little mistakes in my posts, and I always read them a few times before I submit it, but somehow mistakes get through. And there are threads which would be good to have the opening post editable. Such as AMW threads, contest threads, stickied threads, etc. It shouldn't be allowed for those alone either, it's a good feature to have all around, and just because a few people will probably abuse it doesn't mean to mark off the idea.


I agree 100%.
benjaminio
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Goodness sakes! I'm outta these forums!


you're back quick.
I still think that an edit button should only be available for the opening post, and a few mistakes doesn't really mean that you have to edit your post.
Aeridani
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you're back quick.
I still think that an edit button should only be available for the opening post, and a few mistakes doesn't really mean that you have to edit your post.


A few large and inconvenient mistakes on a post?
GhostOfMatrix
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I still think that an edit button should only be available for the opening post, and a few mistakes doesn't really mean that you have to edit your post.

Mistakes can easily confuse people, and make your post seem like it's talking about something else.
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i had a though on a forum that had got locked about the editing post that maby you shoulld put a lockout on editing posts so the person cant edit a post that he did like 4 years ago i was thinking like 1-3 hours

devsaupa
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i had a though on a forum that had got locked about the editing post that maby you shoulld put a lockout on editing posts so the person cant edit a post that he did like 4 years ago i was thinking like 1-3 hours


I am pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere in this thread that the time you can edit a post is about 5-10 minutes.
MistySmoker
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I think it might just be easier for you if you simply started the forums anew. I've seen how frequently some people post on the forums. I may not be one of those, but I certainly realize that the community would probably easily build back up the forums in no time. I'd hate to see someone strain themselves further then they need to, especially upon something that can be so easily resolved.

ThroatLozenge
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Clean sweep. It's not like the forums in there current state are that good :P Stickies can be remade. A new haiku contest can start. But give some kind of badge of recognition for participating in the AG2 forums. That's all that I feel is necessary.

Ernie15
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But give some kind of badge of recognition for participating in the AG2 forums.


Personally, I think we should be able to keep our post counts (yes, I do have a rather high one and I don't want to part with it). If the forums are swept clean, all our posts will be deleted (duh?), but our AG3 post count should start off where it left off in AG2.
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