So, should alcohol be legalized or the drinking age ( 21 in the US, between 18-19 depending on Province for Canada) lowered??? now before this seems somewhat pointless here's some studies to put on the table:
I don't see it happening to the masses anytime, but it needs to happen.
And since it won't be happening to the masses anytime nearly soon, the drinking age needs to stay away from the lower numbers.
I live in a small peaceful suburb, kids have been drinking since they were 14 or younger.
Ah but of course here in the city there are much less alcohol connections. If kids want a fun time, most of them don't mess with booze because it's just too much of a hassle. Sure it's in parties but no one has it consistently every weekend or day unless they're 18ish or they really want to.
The most important point I have is the booze-shock, hardcore drinking that happens to college freshman happening to highschool/middleschoolers. Many 18ish year-olds are killed from alcohol poisoning or stupid lightweight-drunk mistakes and having this easily possible with teens even younger?
Why even risk it? What benefit is there? <-- that's really a question i have...
The most important point I have is the booze-shock, hardcore drinking that happens to college freshman happening to highschool/middleschoolers. Many 18ish year-olds are killed from alcohol poisoning or stupid lightweight-drunk mistakes and having this easily possible with teens even younger?
Agreed, and I've seen a lot of that over the years. However this is far less typical in nations where drinking is far less taboo, and less glorified by the media. We have a society where we promote an image that drinking is 'cool' yet we tell people not to, so when they get the opportunity they go overboard and things like this happen.
And since it won't be happening to the masses anytime nearly soon, the drinking age needs to stay away from the lower numbers.
The problem is that this lack of teaching and responsibility is effecting more than alcohol consumption. And it needs to change now.
Ah but of course here in the city there are much less alcohol connections. If kids want a fun time, most of them don't mess with booze because it's just too much of a hassle. Sure it's in parties but no one has it consistently every weekend or day unless they're 18ish or they really want to.
In the major city my suburb is near too(well like a 30 min highway drive) it is easy to find people who have been drinking since they were kids, and heavily since they were like 10.
The most important point I have is the booze-shock, hardcore drinking that happens to college freshman happening to highschool/middleschoolers. Many 18ish year-olds are killed from alcohol poisoning or stupid lightweight-drunk mistakes and having this easily possible with teens even younger?
But by teaching them about alcohol, and like MRWalker said, making it less taboo, we could avoid this.
Why even risk it? What benefit is there? <-- that's really a question i have...
The benefits come when parents teach their kids, and the drinking age is lowered. At that point you will see fewer deaths caused by alcohol poisoning.
Agreed, and I've seen a lot of that over the years. However this is far less typical in nations where drinking is far less taboo, and less glorified by the media. We have a society where we promote an image that drinking is 'cool' yet we tell people not to, so when they get the opportunity they go overboard and things like this happen.
EXACTLY! And if we change the drinking age before we change our country's way of thinking, bad **** finna happen. Those encouraging/taboo images aren't going to change any time soon and need to change BEFORE the drinking age is changed.
The benefits come when parents teach their kids, and the drinking age is lowered. At that point you will see fewer deaths caused by alcohol poisoning.
Ah, but this is not what i meant by benefit. This example doesn't directly provide someone with a better life, this is just an argument on whether the repercussions will be so large. And if this such example is true, why wouldn't college freshman stop overdrinking so much instead of continuing the current trend? Their parents should have taught their kids not to get alcohol poisoning by now if this would happen.
I still want to hear how society stands to gain in the lowering of the drinking age.
And if this such example is true, why wouldn't college freshman stop overdrinking so much instead of continuing the current trend? Their parents should have taught their kids not to get alcohol poisoning by now if this would happen.
I still want to hear how society stands to gain in the lowering of the drinking age.
You have been talking about how parents don't teach their kids, and then ask why they haven't by saying they should have. They haven't, and aren't going to unless they realize what it means to be a parent. If the parents teach their kids, there will be a decrease in alcohol poisoning.
well i think it should be lowered because where i come from you can just ask people to buy it for you if you underage and they do it but not too young.
You have been talking about how parents don't teach their kids, and then ask why they haven't by saying they should have. They haven't, and aren't going to unless they realize what it means to be a parent. If the parents teach their kids, there will be a decrease in alcohol poisoning.
"If" they teach their kids is basically my point. More importantly, that the parents won't change their teachings any time soon, especially not within several generations, and that the large problem of alcohol craziness will diminish into a lesser factor only after those several generations.
Therefore, until we have gone through several generations of alcohol poisoning awareness in the media, and much much more importantly, parenting -- and until we see changes in the alcohol poisoning craziness -- lowering the drinking age will allow for the problem to simply shift to highschools.
I have been talking about how America is irresponsible in alcohol overdose problems and even if we are willing to change these ways it will take a long time.
I have been talking about how America is irresponsible in alcohol overdose problems and even if we are willing to change these ways it will take a long time.
While it probably will, we got here in like 50 years or less. It wouldn't be that hard if Americans could think.
You are legally considered an adult at age 18 in the U.S. However, at age 18, you are still not fully physically developed.
Yeah, You are not fully physically or emotionally (so I've heard) developed at the age of 18, yet, you are able to vote at the age of 18. And in my opinion voting is a much more important thing than drinking in the overall scheme of the nation. So if you are going to trust 18 year olds to vote, you should trust them to drink as well.
It wouldn't be that hard if Americans could think.
Right on brother. We Americans are to stupid to see the things that stare us in the face, grab our dogs and start beating us with them while yodeling, and swearing at top volume.
We Americans are to stupid to see the things that stare us in the face, grab our dogs and start beating us with them while yodeling, and swearing at top volume.
You just described my weekend.
on topic, 21 year olds aren't the most responsible people on the planet, so 18 year olds would probably be worse. I can see drunk driving go up.
We Americans are to stupid to see the things that stare us in the face, grab our dogs and start beating us with them while yodeling, and swearing at top volume.
I am American just so you know. I'm just tired of the masses being stupid.
I am American just so you know. I'm just tired of the masses being stupid.
Me too, to both of those statements. Unfortunately it's something we have to deal with, and is the reason we shouldn't lower the drinking age for a while.
I think the drinking age should stay the same and parents be responsible and teach moderation, don't drink and drive, teach about the adverse effects of alcoholism. I also think people who drink and drive should be jailed, fined, have their license suspended the FIRST time.
